Buying online for delivery in Spain
Replies: 22 - Last Post: Oct 26, 2013 12:22 PM Last Post By: Tomboii
Oct 23, 2013 2:23 AM
Buying online for delivery in SpainHello, everybody.
I'm not sure this is the right place to ask this, so in that case please let me know.
I am living in Spain for the moment and I would like to take advantage of the coming black friday offers and buy a camera possibly through Amazon.com, however I am at a total loss about how the shipping works or if it's even allowed here like I used to do in my country.
Can anybody help me with this, please?
Oct 23, 2013 3:13 AM
1Very unlikely you will be able to have a camera delivered in Spain through amazon.com. According to their website:
Buyers outside the U.S. cannot purchase the following types of items from sellers: video games, toy and baby items, electronics, cameras and photo items, tools and hardware, kitchenware and housewares, sporting goods and outdoor equipment, software, and computers.
And of course if you somehow succeed to purchase it from them anyway, be aware that you will have to pay import duties. Which can be a painful process that involves going in person to the customs office etc...
The alternative is amazon.es. Or compare the .es prices with the .de and .fr prices (it's sometimes cheaper in France or Germany, even after shipping charges. And no import duties in the EU of course !).
Oct 23, 2013 3:59 AM
2Thank you for your reply. In my country I used to have a service with a locker in Miami so I would buy anything in Amazon to be delivered to Miami then I would pay a relatively small fee to ship it from Miami to my country, the only thing I had to be aware of was not to buy items exceeding $200 US dollars since then I would have to pay a lot of taxes but that was it. I wonder if such services exist here in Spain...
The thing is that I have compared a few items between Amazon.com and Amazon.es and they come out more expensive in Amazon.es and also I heard that they do not have offers for Black Friday, aahhh this is so frustrating not knowing how to do this here and every local friend I ask looks at me like "what the hell are you talking about?", lol.
Oct 23, 2013 4:12 AM
Oct 23, 2013 4:15 AM
4In theory you could have it delivered to a friend or relative (or this forwarder service) in the US and then forwarded to Spain. BUT there is a good chance it will be stopped by customs when arriving in Spain. Which means you will have to go to the customs office to pick it up after having paid import duties and/or VAT. It looks like on digital cameras you will only have to pay 21% VAT, no import duties. The treshold for importing anything duty and VAT-free is 22 EUR. More info:
Oct 23, 2013 4:25 AM
5I live in the EU (Belgium) and am a regular customer of amazon.com and amazon.de and I buy books and CD's from amazon.com (no import duties on these items). But I buy my electronics from amazon.de.
And I know that electronics are more expensive in Europe than in the US, but that's just something we have to live with over here... You also have to take into account that camera's bought in the US come with different power cables, etc...
Oct 23, 2013 4:27 AM
6Thank you very much Lilyramone for taking the time to actually help. I will check that calculator now.
I read somewhere that on amazon.com.uk and amazon.de they have Black Friday offers, if this is true maybe that is an option for me. The power cables are ok, since in my country I use the same power cables as in the US and I had to buy adapters here to be able to use all my electronics.
Edited by: Tomboii
Oct 23, 2013 4:40 AM
Oct 23, 2013 4:45 AM
8Maybe I'll just clarify: I would not recommend importing electronics from the US; the additional shipping costs, duties and hassle usually just ain't worth it. (I could tell you about a friend who spent hours trying to recover an imported toy from Belgian customs: she drove 80 km to and back from the customs station, had to take a day off from work and finally paid 30 € duties on a 20 € toy...)
The only case where I would do it is if the item is not available in Europe or in case of huge price differences. In all other cases I would agree with Richiavo: bite the bullet and buy it here...
PS: there are a lot of Europeans visiting the US and bringing back clothes and electronics. Where you can bring back clothes for a value of up to 400 € duty free, you would still have to declare any electronics when re-entering the EU and pay duties and VAT on these. Not declaring them can result in extra fines (and there are frequent checks).
Oct 23, 2013 5:14 AM
9Ref the various amazon eu websites; I live in Germany and frequently find it's cheaper to buy from amazon.co.uk and get it shipped over (no import taxes as it's within the ETA) than it is to buy from amazon.de. Of course, once you've ordered it and start tracking the delivery you find amazon will ship it from a German warehouse anyway, but still charge you UK shipping rates. Cheeky bastards.
Oct 23, 2013 5:45 AM
10Hahaha, people always find loopholes on this thing. I just checked the same camera to compare prices on AMazon.co.uk and Amazon.es and on Amazon.es is over 100 euros more expensive. I have friend visiting in a couple of weeks from the UK, I supposed if I buy it and have it delivered to him then he brings the camera as his own he doesn't have to pay any taxes, right?
Oct 23, 2013 7:54 AM
Oct 23, 2013 8:55 AM
Oct 23, 2013 9:26 AM
13We buy regularly from Amazon.co.uk, because we find they are usually cheaper than Amazon.es. (We live in Spain). For a number of products I have to buy at amazon.es such as Kindle books. For products such as CD's and DVD's we often compare prices from the different amazon-outlets, USA, UK, Germany and Spain and find that for us, also taking shipping-costs into account, the UK is the cheapest.
Oct 23, 2013 3:20 PM
14Aaaah interesting. Do you guys know if all the regulations about electronics and taxes to bring into Spain if bought in the US are not the same if I buy at a country from the European Union? I mean maybe I could just buy the camera myself using amazon.co.uk and have it shipped here to Spain without needing to bother my friend, since he will only travel with a small bag.
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