Replies: 11 - Last Post: Nov 10, 2013 2:39 AM Last Post By: shars13
Sep 4, 2013 11:46 AM
AME trekkingHi all,
Ive just been quoted a great price for doing Manaslu and Tsum valley trek next year by AME (Adventure Mountain Explore) treks. They look legit and ive seen good reviews on Tripadvisor for them but they are not LP recommended. Has anyone trekked with them before, and if so did you enjoy the experience??
Also, i hope to do this trek next August. How badly is Manaslu and Tsum valley affected by the Monsoon? Would you consider it to be dangerous??
Thanks in advance,
Edited by: HuskeyTravelers
Sep 4, 2013 5:01 PM
Sep 5, 2013 12:33 AM
2Monsoon: I have been to Nepal 6 times for 10 months, but never in the monsoon. I would advise you to check out very carefully what the weather will most likely be like - if there is a lot of cloud and snow, views could be severely restricted (I had a huge amount of cloud in the Everest region in late May 2008 and so some very limited views much of the time, plus some snow).
Also the high pass on Manaslu may be closed - it seems to be much more vulnerable to closure due to snow/weather than other high passes. My main guide, who has almost certainly been over various high passes more than 100 times, including a few times in quite bad snow, has twice been unable (with other clients, not me) to get over the Manaslu pass (in Feb each time, I think) due to snow, whilst other equally high passes still seem to be passable at that time of year.
BTW I have not done Manaslu yet - I am waiting for the "permit" costs to come down.
I can't advise re the company - carefully check the details re what is included and not included - don't just judge by price, as a "good" price may be achieved by cutting budgets for food etc. I would not worry too much if a company is not listed by LP.
Sep 5, 2013 12:36 AM
Sep 5, 2013 1:31 AM
4No experience of the company but they are members of TAAN which is a pre-requisite:
I would not be concerned that they are not recommended by LP; they have been rolling over the info from one edition of the guide to the next without any substantive reviews. There are hundreds of companies and price and service changes over time.
I have not trekked Manaslu either but from my reading I would be concerned about Larkye La being unpassable.
This community website might have useful inof:
Sep 5, 2013 9:20 AM
5rdccomments: the permit fees are about as reasonable as restricted permits can be....basically 10$/day or less. And note that you do not pay the Manaslu restricted area fee while you are in/paying for the Tsum V area and using that permit. So deduct those 7 or 8 days from the Manaslu permit costs. No one likes paying permit fees least of all me but these aren't bad....also note....TIMS not required when you purchase a restricted area permit. I even trekked Annapurna circuit AFTER Manaslu/Tsum valley and did not need a TIMS as had the park permits (Annapurna and Manaslu) and the restricted area permits (Manaslu and Tsum V). All the checkpoints on Annapurna said that was good enough and you occnly see signs at checkpoints mentioning TIMS not required if you purchase/use a restricted area permit.
I think this is correct:
Manaslu Trekking Permit:
September-November: USD 70.00 for 7 days per person and after 7 days USD 10.00 per person.
December-August: USD 50.00 for 7 days per person and after 7 days USD 7.00 per person.
ACAP (Annapurna Conservation Area Project) Entrance Permit. NPR. 2000.00 per person
MCAP (Manaslu Conservation Area Project) Entrance Permit. NPR. 2000.00 per person
Tsum Valley Trek:
September-November USD 35.00 per person for the first 8 days
December-August USD 25.00 per person for the first 8 days
Sep 5, 2013 9:28 AM
6Sorry, wrong link above.
Sep 5, 2013 11:05 AM
7Roger - I am waiting for the "permits" etc to at a similar level to Everest region, Annapurna, Langtang. I have heard that the locals in Manaslu want the restrictions lifted, but bureaucratic things usually move very slowly in Nepal. For me as a single trekker, the "permits" would come to about US$300 - a lot of money just for "paper".
Sep 5, 2013 11:22 AM
8Hi Richard...I agree, it is an extra expense that I don't like to pay though considering permit prices in other areas it as good as it gets...say 10$/day for the Manaslu part--15 days= 150$; the T V permit is 35$ for the 7-8 days. So about $185 for about 22-23 days....of course the park permits must be bought too but they are required just about wherever you go so can't really be considered an extra cost for this trek.
The other big expense is the guide fee of 25$/day or so....but if you go with 4 people you split that 4 ways, maybe one porter btwn you.....going by yourself costs will add up quickly. That's what we did, 4 westerners, one guide, and one porter who only one person used so we didn't pay for that. So guide fee of 25$ split by 4 = 6.25$/day.
I am as frugal (cheap) as they come and I was ok with it....a side benefit is that it the extra costs involved in this trek keep a lot of people out....I would not wait but do this trek as soon as possible because it will only get more crowed each yr and once the permit fees are/if rescinded the trek will be flooded with trekkers.
Sep 5, 2013 11:28 PM
9Roger - thanks for the info.
Re avoiding the crowds - this is the main reason I now mainly trek in mid winter - it is so much quieter (even too quiet), and the weather is often at its clearest (least precipitation = least cloud etc).
As well as the c.US$300 if I did as a single trekker, this is on top of the visa - lots of money (and bureacratic hassle) just for paper.
Sep 6, 2013 3:54 AM
Nov 10, 2013 2:39 AM
11Hi, my friend and I used this company to trek to base camp in march 2013! I highly recommend this company for any trekking in Nepal! There are no hidden fees u get all that they promise plus more. We could not fault this company in respect to ensuring our safety and also the tea houses in which u stay in a very basic, but clean and the food is great. Their guides are well trained and will guide u all long the way and will go at yr pace. We had a medical emergency six days in to our trek and needed to be choppered off the mountain. AME organised everything for us and continued to look after me whilst me friend was in the hospital for three or so days. The blue horizon which is the hotel in Kathmandu used by this company is in a great location and the staff and food are excellent. I am planning on going back to Nepal and will be using Tika and AME again! Five stars!
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