How Vang Vieng Locals feel about their "party town
Replies: 38 - Last Post: Oct 2, 2013 5:28 PM Last Post By: tools4fools
Sep 4, 2013 5:39 AM
Sep 6, 2013 6:27 AM
16"They would have been much much better off had they instead catered to a more upmarket crowd."
Always a lot of talk about that; exactly how they were going to do it,:"years back", when the 90 % of the tourists who came to their country were lowlife backpackers .... is a conundrum no one has ever yet explained or came up with an example of. However it's a great subject to yabbar about when you have nothing else to do. I prefer microwaved popcorn.
Sep 6, 2013 8:36 AM
Sep 6, 2013 10:19 AM
Sep 7, 2013 12:43 AM
Sep 7, 2013 1:34 AM
Sep 7, 2013 6:23 AM
21I'm with Monty. I was there before it turned into an aquatic drugfest when the locals were still happy. Now the problem is that the locals are missing all that revenue ad the b&bs are all sat waiting for the party to reignite - the one they kinda hated in the first place. VV is in its painful rebirth stage but you know what, this place will go back to its river roots, the gap year kids will eventually come back but under a new unspoken agreement, that they're not coming to get naked and scream their ti** off and act like the town was theirs. Went there earlier this year and there are more families, a much quieter vibe and less chainsaws on the go creating more guesthouses. Am now climbing off my soapbox!
Sep 7, 2013 10:13 AM
Worked well for who? GP @ 18. Bhutan is expensive and awkward. Many backpackers are thoroughly decent sorts, don't like the way some posts seem to infer otherwise. Bhutan is a rip off and is not just trying to thwart undesirables but trying to make a mint from over inflated travel costs. I wish to go there but principle stops me. Climb off my soap box also as in 21.
Sep 8, 2013 12:52 AM
23Please get them to remove the water tower on opposite bank of the river it spoils all the sunset pictures.
totally irresponsible in my book
Vang V sunset 2003
Vang V sunsets now
It changed fast when they moved the locals out North along with the market /post office and bus station, at least the friends re-runs kept the idiots away from areas surrounding Vang V, ie the lakes.
It still remains a beautiful place
grahampoole nice places I found to relax were Thaton and maesalong (Nth Thailand) also from Nong Khiaw / mong noi places en route to sam neue ie Phongsali & also Ngam Muang and vieng Kham on road from Nong Khiaw
Sep 8, 2013 1:54 AM
Sep 10, 2013 7:57 PM
25^^Luang Prabang has had no problems attracting an upmarket crowd for years now
Of course Bhutan has done just this - ie catered for the upmarket crowd and it has worked well>.
Ahh yes, Bhutan. A tiny principality nestled deep in the Himalayas; an agrarian society with a minuscule population, 90 per cent living at a 'middleages' level of subsistencel. Add in ready made well heeled tourist trekking base, which will pay to walk and sleep in tents and there you go. Nice way to start a tourist industry with little expense in developing infrastructure. You just wonder why this successful tourist template hasn’t been replicated in so many other countries, around the globe?!
However this is ignoring the fact that Laos tried something similar between 1989 and 1994 and failed utterly. Well heeled tourist did not running, no packs of Conde Nast types, elbowing to experience the tourist wonderland of Laos. How was it? ... You bought the package, visa, flew in and out, and between most towns of interest stay in the best places, well best available – Phousi in LP, Riverside? River View in Vientiane. Deithelm, Exotissimo, a Japanese and Singapore outfit were the main sellers.
Those were the days, but nobody came.
Much as I detest that 90’s buzzword, “synergy”, it applies to Laos. Mix in time, word of mouth, supplanted by internet – video – cable – travel shows and Luang Prabang has indeed become the town of boutique hotels we see today. However this just happened, it wasn’t planned.
Sep 11, 2013 12:40 AM
26#25 1999 my first tim Laos year of tourism I had 7 days took speedboat down to Luam P from houyxai and only few Gh's so few in fact they drew up two large boats along the riverside near night mkt end and made them into dormitories, I asked Full Gh on river front if I could sleep on the bench in front "No my guests like sit to look out onto river," "could I sleep on the roof then?" "No I cannot get bed onto roof" "BED! you have a BED?" "No mister! I told you I cannot get bed onto roof " "wheres the bed ?" I asked they had bed removed from a triple bed room to the landing where I subsequently stayed 2 nights for 30 baht night and next two years after . Nowadays every street in Luam Phrabang is a mass of Gh's and expensive at that. see Christopher Kremmer 'stalking the elephant kings'
sadly backpackers made these places famous and forced them to improve their facilities and then they all want chuck them out to make way for flashpackers and the well heeled elite ones, who sojourn to Bhutan and other areas of SEA far too expensive for us peasants as indeed is happening in Burma now.
Sep 11, 2013 2:59 AM
Sep 11, 2013 4:17 PM
28An old story - I used to have a paper file on this "ruined by tourism" thing. One article; trekking in Nepal back in the 90's. The author ran onto on old hippie huffing it on the trails who wryly complained 'we discovered this place, we put it on the map, now they don't want us anymore'
so it goes
Sep 11, 2013 4:35 PM
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