From Mexico city to near by towns-day visits
Replies: 52 - Last Post: Sep 10, 2013 5:46 PM Last Post By: erogenouszone
Aug 1, 2013 8:03 PM
15MoShamim, regarding transportation around Mexico City:
Don't forget the metro. Mexico City has an excellent metro system that is very extensive - it goes to the far north and south of the city, is inexpensive and efficient. As you are from Ireland, perhaps you've been to Paris. If so, you'll notice the metro in Mexico City looks very much like the Parisian metro and functions very similarly - even the ticket vending machines look the same (because the same company built both systems).
Aug 1, 2013 8:42 PM
16With a population of about 20 million, Mexico City's metropolitan area constitutes one of the world's largest cities. But, constructed partly on a former lake bed and experiencing occasional earthquakes, Mexico City possesses, fewer tall buildings than other enormous cities typically have. So, the City has expanded outwards, encompassing areas such as San Angel, Coyoacan, and Roma, places that long ago ceased being separate towns. Those upscale city neighborhoods can, however, be pleasant places to visit. They also can, like other parts of the metropolitan area, be accessed readily from the airport using authorized taxis whose safety and prices are regulated.
Aug 1, 2013 8:58 PM
Aug 2, 2013 3:27 AM
18San Angel (which I barely visited once, years ago) and Coyoacán (more recently) are charming suburbs of Mexico City. Colonias Condesa and Roma are very mellow, and more "hip". Colonia Roma is now our favorite place to stay in Mexico City.
Unos Rinconcitos de la Colonia Roma Norte
These photos were taken all within an approximately 6 block quadrangle.
A few street food stands and restaurants of Colonia Roma
Aug 2, 2013 4:14 AM
19Condesa and Roma are as connected to the airport as any other neighbourhood. As I had mentioned, there are taxi stands inside the airport and they will charge you a fixed rate to whatever location you are going to. To be clear, those neighbourhoods are still very central - not far flung suburbs. If you stay in Roma or Condesa, you will also have easy access to the Metrobus (a rapid bus with its own dedicated lane), which will bring you to Coyoacan and San Angel. There are several major inter-city bus stations in DF, with each focused (but not exclusive to) different directions (i.e. north, south, east, west). Some might be easier to get to via public transit than others.
Aug 3, 2013 2:23 PM
20Ouch, with only 4 days you'll barely even brush though Mexico City and it's endless size. Even I haven't seen all of the city despite knowing it for over 20 years. It's THAT big and only getting bigger, and bigger and bigger.
Hrmmm haven't been to Malinalco so I can't say, I enjoy Valle de Bravo, I work very close to Valle though I find the traffic to be horrendous and find it to be very overpriced. An incomplete comida corrida for 45 MXN? Ouch! Hotels in Valle are pricey, but worth 1 day if you are into paragliding (so awesome but it is a dangerous sport). Valle de Bravo would be a best shot as a tourist between November-March when there are monarch butterflies and plenty of 2 day arranged bus tours from Mexico City at a bargain 500 MXN a pop. Not bad.
To get to Malinalco or Valle de Bravo you must get to the Toluca bus station. With so little time do yourself a favor and skip wanderoung around Toluca, it's like some sort of once rural but now industrialized factory city without any good high rise buildings, goofy poorly designed avenues with a lot of traffic and not much to see except a few museums downtown. Plus many bus drivers are rude and I don't like the place that much. HOWEVER, there is another hot hot hot cool place near Toluca that is full of awesome: Nevado de Toluca volcano. You need a car to get there but the place is full of awesome, it's like living your fanboy dreams of being in Lord of the Rings without having to travel all the way to New Zealand. In the winter there is also real snow on the top and unlike the Pop you can climb to the top if you are into mountain climbing.
I went to Tepozotlan last year for a social event and found the town to be lovely, not much traffic, retains a lot of the small town feel. If you are into hippie New Age quartz healing good vibes, you can find a witch doctor in Tepo to heal your ails and find you forever everlasting love for a fee. Plus the Tepo has a cool pyramid at the top with a good view (especially in the morning), can't go wrong with that. If you do the pyramid, do it around 7 am when the view will be the best and there isn't enough sun to cause you to faint and fall off a cliff. Yes, Mexico's altitude will get you sick, be assured you will be panting going all the way to the top.
As for other good small town villages in Mexico that haven't been ruined by inflated prices and mass tourism, how about "El Oro"???? It's a new "pueblo Magico" without all of the tourism and just 2 hours away from Mexico City. Bet you can easily get a cheap hotel room for 150 MXN. I can't say how good it is because I haven't been there but it's just 10 minutes away from Atlacomulco which sells some interesting regional cheese and fruit liquor. Even had nanche fruit brandy? The stuff is good stuff.
Hrmm... rural mexican rancheros killing you for no good reason?? There are indeed a few parts of rural State of Mexico that are still kind of like that but you'd have to get to the farthest rural areas from Mexico City (a good 6 hour bus trip) and walk 20 km in a dirt road get to these places. I have been to some of these places and the locals are mostly normal rural folk that will find you to be very interesting and wonder why in the hell are you bothering to visit their village if there is nothing touristy to see anyways. They will probably more than likely want to be your friend and ask you to teach them english, most of them are good people. They don't shoot you for no reason despite what you've seen from Hollywood movies, usually you have to have done something really bad to get them really angry.
Aug 5, 2013 5:41 PM
21So, I have decided to stay first 2 nights in Mexico city, then go to Chignahuapan for 1 night, and then from there go to Tepotzlan for 1 night, then come back, stay 1 more night at Mexico city and then fly back.
1. Pl can you let me know some famous 'Canteena' bars typical Mexican where locals go, I want to experience that.
2. Pl tell me 5 things which we must see or do in Mexico city and 5 things around neighboring town of Mexico city befor I die. (I live in USA, so nothing Amrerican or European,pl)
3. Is there any home style, living with the family in Mexico city which you can recommend for me and wife. We will pay good.
4. Most of reviews of hotel customers say that there rooms were on street, noisy,could not sleep, so where one can get peaceful hotel room. Thanks a lot , pl help
Aug 5, 2013 8:26 PM
22It good to see that you'll have five nights in Mexico, instead of just three or four.
Did you consult a map before deciding to first go to Chignahuapan for a night and then spend a second night at Tepotzlan? Those towns are on opposite sides of Mexico City. So, to reduce your travel time, consider spending both nights either in Chignahuapan or in Tepotzlan. Or, perhaps substitute for Tepotzlan somewhere else that is located more or less in between Chignahuapan and Mexico City. Both Tlaxcala and Cholula (a suburb of Puebla) are pleasant places that could work well for you for that second night. Personally, I'd rather spend both nights in Chignahuapan,
I notice from your profile that you're from India and have conducted some development activities there. One place where NGO volunteers, and tourists with related interests sometimes stay in Mexico City is a Quaker service center known as the "Casa de los Amigos". But, unless by chance you are able to reserve use of the one apartment suite that they have there, you might find the Casa's lodgings to be more spartan and communal than would be ideal for you. Fortunately, there is good mid-range hotel, The Gran Hotel Texas, right across the street from Casa de los Amigos.
Aug 5, 2013 8:46 PM
23Here are a few pictures that I took in Chignahuapan in January, 2012. It was cool there at that time of year, but would be warm now.
Click on the first one and then scroll through the set. There are labels that display clearly as long as you refrain from enlarging the photos in their largest size.
Aug 6, 2013 7:10 PM
Aug 7, 2013 6:20 AM
25With regards to Mexico City's cantinas, here are two recent-ish articles:
Aug 7, 2013 11:33 AM
26"...between Chignahuapan and Tepotzlan, looks like 2 1/2 hr journey,.."
Actually that trip would take you considerably longer, especially by bus, perhaps 4 1/2 to 5 1/2 hours altogether. You would make bus changes in first Puebla and later Cuernavaca. The country side along the way would be pretty and interestingly you would pass right by several attractive places that could themselves be good alternatives for your second night outside of Mexico City, specifically Tlaxcala, or Cholula, or Atlixco. One of those could be substituted for Tepotzlan to reduce you bus time. Or, as suggested above in #22, consider spending both of your "small town nights" in either Chignahuapan or Tepotzlan.
Aug 7, 2013 12:52 PM
27Thank you Master Chris, you are great. I think, we will not mind even 5 1/2 hrs of bus journey if we get front seat with a window in a little luxury bus, if we can pass thru lovely country side. As you say, I can stay in Tlaxcala, or Cholula, or Atlixco also. But as I understand, Tepotzlan is a great place to see, a must few say; then, after one night there, it will be faster to reach back to Condesa in Mexico city at a private home thru airbnc where we intend to pass our last night.
I also thank you for all you links specially on Canteena. Great Sir
Aug 8, 2013 10:53 PM
28Mo, from my experience the most luxurious lines (ETN, ADO Platino) tend to have a separate driver's cabin with the windows covered by a curtain, so don't expect a front view, only a side view from your window. If front view is more important than spacious seat, opt for for a cheaper first class service. Those front seats are very popular so book in advance.
Aug 8, 2013 11:46 PM
29Luxury lines such as ETN, and ADO Platino conduct long runs between major cities and resorts, a different type of trip from the ones that Mo Shamin plans to take. He's not likely to encounter any "Luxury" long distance lines for the various short journey's he'll make: Mexico City's TAPO station to Chignahuapan; Chignahuapan to Puebla; Puebla to Cuernavaca; Cuernavaca to Tepotzlan; Tepotzlan to Mexico City. When making such trips, many passengers do not buy their tickets until right before they ride. No one books such tickets over the Internet.
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