To get from Puerto Escondido to Tepoztlan
Replies: 8 - Last Post: Jul 12, 2013 1:38 PM Last Post By: enroutesiglo
Jul 11, 2013 4:46 PM
To get from Puerto Escondido to TepoztlanHello!
We will be in Chacagua and need to get to Tepoztlan.
I know one option is to go to Puerto Escondido (or even Rio Grande) and take a bus to DF and from there to Tepoz.
But, I am curious about trying to go from Chagacua to Acapulco, spend the night in Acapulco, carry on to Cuernavaca, and then from there, on to Tepoz.
A few people have mentioned that this might be dangerous, as Acapulco and Cuernavaca are dangerous places these days.
It is hard to separate fact from fiction with regard to violence in Mexico, so I am open to suggestions about the best way for a (well-traveled) family with three kids to get from Chacagua to Tepoztlan.
Anyone been that way lately?
Jul 11, 2013 4:59 PM
1A few people have mentioned that this might be dangerous, as Acapulco and Cuernavaca are dangerous places these days.
Well, at least they admit that they're guessing. They're wrong. Yes, there have been a few gang incidents in Acapulco, but there have been no incidents with people passing through these parts (not including that whole undercover whatever clusterfrack last year in Morelos). Regardless of the reality, the city's tourist industry has been hit hard.
I was just out along the Guerrero/Oaxaca border making day trips and it's business as usual. Lots and lots of cars, busses, camionetas, and vans going from Pinotepa to Acapulco, around a 4-5 hour trip I believe. If you're in Chacahua (note spelling), it's about an hour or so to Pinotepa, from there you can grab the next leg and just stay in a well-known part of Acapulco... might as well make the best of it.
Jul 11, 2013 7:05 PM
2Thanks for the info.
So, we can get transportation from Chacahua to Pinotepa, and then catch a ride to Acapulco from there?
In terms of cars, busses, camionetas, etc., are some faster than others?
Any suggestions for a place to stay in Acapulco - budget, low-key?
And, then from Acapulco, there will be transportation to Cuernavaca, and then to Tepoz fairly easily?
That sounds a lot better than a long ride back up the mountain to Oaxaca and over to DF.
Jul 11, 2013 11:39 PM
3There are several first class buses that go from Pinotepa to Acapulco (www.autobusesaltamar.com.mx) - most go to the Ejido terminal but a couple go to the Centro one (and those seem to be quicker for some reason). There are literally dozens of first-class buses from Acapulco to Cuernavaca. Acapulco has accommodation for all budgets from 15 USD a night in the old part to 35 USD a night for a decent place in a nicer area to 500 USD a night in the likes of the Banyan Tree.
Cuernavaca doesn't have a bad reputation for visitor safety although drug violence has occurred - for me it's a big city that just isn't particularly likeable. Acapulco has had his dangers exaggerated (or even fabricated as in the Spanish tourists' "rape" story).
Jul 12, 2013 7:14 AM
4It's hard to say if it makes more sense to go backwards via colectivo to Rio Grande (presumably the first-class bus stops there, but it's not certain) or forward to Pinotepa Nacional; I would just hop on a colectivo (some are quite comfortable, one company operates Eurovans along this route, and there are at least two companies) to Pinotepa during the morning and change to first-class bus there, but finding a passing colectivo with five empty seats might be an issue for your family.
Jul 12, 2013 7:40 AM
5You have good first hand advice here about your route, let me speak to the family travel (non) "danger)". I work closely with a guy who goes to Acapulco to his place there with family all the time, from DF, bus & car, no trouble/no issues in past 3 years we are friends. Please be aware that as tourists and foreigners you are very much not included in any narco actions, in fact carefully excluded. This fact makes Mexico for you much safer than say LA or Philly in USA where the end, penny ante, drug sales and use occur.
I kinda still like Cuernavaca but in doses and understand the visitors who can´t find the charm. Certainly I would also like to time travel to Malcolm Lowry´s smog free place. Tepotzlan I find fun in that nutty Mexican new age way. Like my upstairs neighbor who rings these little bells all the time for some spiritual end. I keep wanting to go buy ice-cream sandwiches from him. I lack spiritualidad obviously.
Jul 12, 2013 8:25 AM
6but finding a passing colectivo with five empty seats
This is true... I always feel this pang of pity for people waiting along a route trying to wave down the collectivo you're in which doesn't stop because it's full. Unlike in some other places, they don't tend to stuff them to the brim; once the seats are taken up, that's that. OTOH there are also 'camionetas,' which have the open benches in the back. Easier to pile on and find a place to squeeze into. Alternatively, you might want to just arrange a simple taxi from your hotel or from a nearby community, I doubt it would cost much more than 150 pesos max.
One other note, if this is happening in the near future, Santiago Jamiltepec will be having its festival on July 25th and a few days before. Shouldn't affect travel plans but could be neat to catch a glimpse of if the timing lines up.
Certainly I would also like to time travel to Malcolm Lowry´s smog free place
If you find a way to do this, I'm in! I think it may involve ringing some bells...
Jul 12, 2013 10:57 AM
7Queretaro’s suggestion of Pinotepa Nacional > Acapulco > Cuernavaca > Tepoztlan is on target. You might also find a bus that’ll take you from Pinotepa Naciona with a stop in Chilpancingo … but they’d be fewer.
I don’t recommend night travel - after dark - travel along Hwy. 200 from Pinotepa Nacional to Acapulco. By daylight is the only time I travel that route. Various safety/security issues is the reason.
Be aware, also, that there have been intermittent protests and road blockages along both portions of Hwy. 200 and the Autopista del Sol which could, if you came upon them, delay your trip by some hours No violence, just protests which halt most or all traffic such as busses, trucks.
News reports about crimes and violence in Acapulco have been under-reported in the media (in particular the international media), IMO, but the most serious of those narco-terrorist activities seem to have ceased or are greatly minimized. Acapulco, though no longer as popular with international tourists, remains popular with Mexican tourists and as Queretaro has said, there are hotel rooms in all price categories. Stopping there for an overnight stay, or longer if you have the time, might be enjoyable.
I’ve never found Cuernavaca to be a likeable place. Traffic, pollution, and, for a period … seemingly high rates of crime. But you’ll just be passing through and I don’t think you’ve reason to be too concerned for your safety.
Enjoy the adventure!
Jul 12, 2013 12:52 PM
8Be aware, also, that there have been intermittent protests and road blockages... which may delay your trip by some hours. No violence, just protests
This is actually the case for nearly all of Mexico, including all possible roads back up to Oaxaca, throughout Guerrero, and on the main roads in Chiapas, where it caused a full day's delay of traffic around Tuxtla last month.
Seems like the consensus is that the violence in Acapulco has been in fact over-reported, including the "rape" which took place which ended up involving gangsters that the vacationers were "partying" with. Many other stories have appeared in the international press without any context, which is one reason why international tourism has plummeted so much.
There isn't much "night travel" per se between Pino and Acapulco, but a bus arriving in the early eve is no prob.
If you need to stay in Pinotepa, I recommend the brand new "Casavegas" in between Pepe's and Gaviotas. It's not in any guidebooks yet (actually Moon and Tomzap are the only places I've found with listings). Upscale-ish "luxury" rooms for $350. Hotel Carmona is more centrally located and would give you a better chance to enjoy some of the Pinotepa ambiance on the square in early eve.
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