Train - Bologna to Venice
Replies: 11 - Last Post: Jun 18, 2013 9:43 AM Last Post By: Killik
Jun 17, 2013 2:37 PM
Train - Bologna to VeniceI have searched the Forum, and got some answers, but have a few more questions.
Are tickets for the local trains easily obtainable the day before travel? I read that for the express trains, it is better
to prebook, but I am trying to stay a bit flexible on my dates. I also could not get a price of the local train, to compare it to the express. Italiarail shows a 2nd class price of US$53.00, and 1st class of $83.00. Is it worth the extra money for a 90 minute train ride?
Any help would be appreciated.
Jun 17, 2013 3:16 PM
1A day before travel, an hour before travel or 10 minutes before travel doesn't make a difference. Local trains(Regionale) have unreserved seats.
Bologna-Venezia ticket for Regionale trains 2nd class 10.85 EUR 1st class 16.85 EUR
Is 1st class worth the extra money? In my opinion if you can afford it, than use 1st class and leave 2nd calss for those who can't afford 1st.
Jun 17, 2013 3:37 PM
2On http://www.trenitalia.com (with an English language button) you can easily compare the different types of trains. In this case the Regionale Veloce ('fast regional train') just takes half an hour longer than the Frecciargento express train at one third or even a quarter of the price.
Contrary to Attila I don't see the advantage of travelling first class, unless you expect a crowded train.
Jun 17, 2013 3:46 PM
3The advantage comes for those who want to travel 2nd class! I think it is very nice manners that in case you're well off and can afford to travel on 1st class you don't "take away" a seat/ticket from those who can only afford 2nd class.
Pay more, travel more comfortable and help the poor all in one! :)
Jun 17, 2013 3:58 PM
4"I think it is very nice manners that in case you're well off and can afford to travel on 1st class you don't "take away" a seat/ticket from those who can only afford 2nd class."
I don't get Attila's point about classes, there's basically no difference between 1st and 2nd, especially on local "regionale" trains, so according to me 1st class is simply a waste of money. I really don't understand this "nice manners" statement, it's not a matter of being able to afford 1st class tickets, basically there's no difference between classes on local trains, so the cheaper the better, that's it.
Jun 17, 2013 4:21 PM
Jun 17, 2013 4:32 PM
6I agree to some extent. Although in most European countries most people who travel 2nd class are not poor either. It is not really a culture shock to walk from a 1st class wagon to a 2nd class wagon in Switzerland for example! :)
Ultimately it doesn't matter what is their motivation. If there is a limited amount of places/tickets than those who have a larger disposable income buy the more expensive tickets is making a service for the others by not buying up the cheaper tickets.
Jun 17, 2013 5:25 PM
7Base price (essentially "full fare" without discounts) for the fast trains from the Trenitalia website for this route is 30 euro for 2nd class, 42 euro for 1st class. Clearly, Italiarail is some sort of middleman that adds a hefty fee of their own. Make a note of it and be sure to tell all your friends.
What's also clear is that the regional train is a much better value on this route. And while, as noted, you can buy tickets for regionale trains practically up to departure time, it's a good idea to arrive early and board as soon as possible, since seats aren't reserved and you aren't guaranteed one. Of course, this only works if the train originates from your departure station.
Regional train tickets need to be validated (time-stamped) in the little box-like machines found throughout most stations. No validation means a fine.
Attila, does that mean that people driving fancy expensive cars are actually doing a favor for more economically challenged consumers? Thank you, rich folks! :)
Jun 17, 2013 9:15 PM
8If there is a limited amount of places/tickets than those who have a larger disposable income buy the more expensive tickets is making a service for the others by not buying up the cheaper tickets
Interesting theory... So I suppose that means that people with higher incomes should also be forced to buy a more expensive car, rent a more expensive appartment and buy the more expensive brands of shampoo, pasta sauce or marmelade because not doing so would increase demand and therefore prices of the cheaper alternatives?
As a sidenote, the amount of tickets is not even limited on most trains, except the ones that require advance reservations.
Where did you spend the last century?
OP: 1st class travel is generally a waste of money. Seats are slightly wider, and it gets less crowded than 2nd class during rush hour, but otherwise there is no reason to pay extra for it.
Jun 18, 2013 1:15 AM
9And just to change the theme a bit, some of the cities on the way such as Ferrara and Padova are well worth a visit too. Just turn up when you're ready to go and buy the ticket on the regional train - there are ticket machines in all the big stations which can be switched between languages so you can just press the english button , pick your desination and train, put the money in and you get your ticket.
Jun 18, 2013 4:59 AM
10As the others have written, for Bologna-Venezia a regionale train is worth considering, since the journey is under two hours. It's 10,85€ one way, while a Freccia costs at least 26€.
As for travelling first class, it has happened only twice to choose it here in Italy: once, travelling with two children to Rome from the north, and we were after comfort more than everything else.
The second time, it was a train journey from Tuscany to Rome, about three hours on a regionale train. I booked first class on the assumption that it would surely be air conditioned in the middle of July (second class often isn't). It was, but I got punished just the same: in Civitavecchia the whole train, regardless of class, was filled with passengers from a cruise ship going on day trip to Rome.
Jun 18, 2013 9:43 AM
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