Indawgyi Lake permit - Flight from Mawlamyine (Moulmein)
Replies: 7 - Last Post: Jun 18, 2013 2:04 PM Last Post By: RvdHNL
Jun 14, 2013 1:45 AM
Indawgyi Lake permit - Flight from Mawlamyine (Moulmein)Hi There,
1. For my trip to Myanmar (15 July - 11 August) I'm planning a trip to Indawgyi lake in the North. In Previous posts (very early this year) the same question was asked and also about the safety. It was written that a permit was needed for Myitkina and about the very bad safety situation there because of the kachin Rebellion?
Via this website I read that there were some recent changes (among many) about the permit regulations: http://lifeinthetropics.org/changes-to-the-permitted-and-restricted-areas-in-myanmar/ Is there anyone who heared about latest things/changes in permit-sphere for Indawgyi/direction of Myitkina?
2. I plan to go to the south shortly (5 days) just after my first few days in Yangon. To Hpa-an, Golden Rock and Mawlamyine. Does anyone know if there are flights from Mawlamyine to Mandalay or to other places in Central Myanmar (Like Heho, or Bagan)? Because then I don't need to go back from there to Yangon, which will save me time! I searched for these flights quite intensively on the internet, but haven't asked a tour agent yet. Maybe anyone here knows??
Jun 14, 2013 1:58 AM
1Pretty sure that there are no flights from Mawlamyine to Mandalay or other points north. In fact, until recently the airport there was rather disused and didn't serve any regular flights at all. Right now there should be flights to Yangon and soon to Mae Sot, Thailand. However, Mawlamyine is really quite close to Yangon and it usually doesn't take more than 4 hours to reach Yangon from there so likely you'll need to head back to Yangon in order to go north unless you have a car with driver in which case you could bypass Yangon.
However, someone with more experience flying in Myanmar might know more than I do, so I'm happy to be corrected on this.
Jun 14, 2013 5:52 AM
1. I visited Myitkina in March. No permit was necessary at that time, and I wasn't made aware that permits had ever been needed in recent times. I suppose it's possible that things have changed since March, but it seems unlikely. I suspect very strongly you'll be able to visit Myitkina without a permit. In March, it was impossible to travel overland (either by road or river) between Myitkina and Bhamo. For foreigners, the only way in and out of Myitkina was either by plane or by train.
2. I know nothing about flights, but there's at least one overnight bus every day from Hpa-an to Mandalay. The buses used are quite comfortable, and they travel most of the route along Burma's new super-highway. The buses don't travel via Rangoon, using a much more direct route to head north. The journey only takes about 12 hours or so, all the way to Mandalay. If you want to travel to Bagan or Lake Inle, the bus can drop you off at Meitkila (or rather, a highway truck-stop a few kilometers from Meitkila) where you can head into town and catch onwards transport. I suspect there's also a Mawlamyine-Mandalay service, and possibly other services as well. If you're prepared to take an overnight bus, there's no need to head back to Rangoon in order to catch transport up north.
Jun 14, 2013 8:46 PM
Normally to visit Myitkyina no need to take permission.But you want to visit outside Myitkyina area you need to take permission. But in the present time it is not safe to visit there because of the conflict between Kachin and the Government.
There is no flights between Mawlamyine and Bagan, Mandalay, Heho. If you go back to Yangon early in the morning from Mawlamyine, you can catch the afternoon flight to Heho, Mandalay or Heho. Other suggestion is you can visit first Bagan, Mandalay and Heho ( central Maynmar) then you take the morning flight ( for example: from Heho) and go Kyaikhtiyo (Goledn Rock) directly by car. Then Hpa an and Mawlamying.
If you want to get suggestive itinerary, I can give you.
Jun 15, 2013 5:06 AM
4"But in the present time it is not safe to visit there because of the conflict between Kachin and the Government."
Have things really changed that much since March? I certainly haven't heard anything. The conflict between the Kachin rebel force and the government takes places in the hills far outside the city. I imagine incidents have occurred in the past, but the town is well within control of the government, and I didn't hear of any security issues in March. The Burmese government is very keen on keeping tourists away from danger: if there was any serious danger in Myitkyina itself, the government wouldn't let foreign tourists travel there.
Jun 15, 2013 11:55 PM
51 - as above...no permit is, nor was before, required to visit Myitkyina....currently (as of early this year) you couldn't go out of town at all due to the ongoing fighting of the army against the Kachin...a few years ago you could travel by land north to the meeting of the rivers, and by bus down to Bhamo....but that has not been possible for a while....unlikely you'd get to the lake...
(in Feb the Myanmar govt were using the air-force to bomb Kachin villages not very far out of Myitkyina, but the town itself was safe)
Jun 17, 2013 6:22 PM
6Good advice from the other posters. Didn't know there were buses running from Hpa-an and Mawlamyine (Moulmein) north to Mandalay etc. but this doesn't surprise me.
I haven't caught buses in Myanmar since 2005. Since that time, I've only had cars with drivers (I've mostly traveled for business recently) and from Mawlamyine or Hpa-an heading north it's possible to bypass Yangon by heading towards Bago but before reaching that city you turn onto a road that leads to the north-south Yangon to Mandalay expressway. Most express buses now use that highway for any travel between the central region and northern Myanmar, particularly Nay pyi daw and Mandalay.
Jun 18, 2013 2:04 PM
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