Women: Think twice about going to Egypt alone!
Replies: 43 - Last Post: Jul 2, 2013 10:55 AM Last Post By: frizbee9
Jun 11, 2013 7:52 AM
15I am a woman and I know loads of women living in Egypt, and what this lady wrote has more to do with her own prejudice than with reality on the ground.
One of the things I've learnt is that you will certainly not be more bothered as woman on your own than as a woman traveling with a male. You will even receive more assistance from locals because every Egyptian will feel he or she has the moral duty to assist you, which is not the case if you travel with a male who automatically becomes the duty bearer. I've been groped or harassed as often when I was with a European male than on my own. The average hassler does not take Western men seriously, as there is the belief that Western men are not protective of their women (translate: will not super violently beat up the guy who gropes his girlfriend as an Egyptian would).
Jun 11, 2013 10:48 AM
Jun 11, 2013 3:16 PM
Jun 12, 2013 10:00 PM
18I was with a group in Europe which had the experience that women were touched at the Pyramids. They were on the up staircase when a group of Tourist Police (!) on the down staircase used the opportunity to grab. One member of our group was an Army nurse who had borrowed a metal flashlight from an MP buddy, and smacked an Egyptian right betwen the running lights.
It comes with the territory. If you can't stand the heat......
Jun 13, 2013 3:55 AM
19I certainly sympathize with the OP. I can't imagine how disturbing it would be to spend good money on a travel experience and then be faced with harrassment, anxiety and low grade swindles. Think of the good side though--it could have been worse, much much worse. Mrs. M. and I were in Egypt just prior to the Arab Spring/Copt Winter and it was pretty intense then. It is much worse now according to all reports.
I also agree with Dutch Uncle. If you can't stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen. This is very true of Egypt. If you are not willing to travel through a country in the midst of an economy wrecking, violent, mysoginist Islamic revolution, then stay away.
Jun 13, 2013 1:04 PM
20It is OK, Not every tourist would like Egypt. The skies are NOT falling. You just had a bad experience. It certainly NOT your fault neither the fault of Egypt or Egyptians. Sometimes thing are like this
You should have done little research before you go to Egypt. I don't like the haggle game either, so guess what; I don't buy gifts. it is an easy remedy.
obviously you have no clue to the existence of poverty in this world. poor people do live among the earth population you know
stuff like this happen all over the world, for example check this segment on youtube where a naked man attacked people including few women in BART in san francisco
you can easily search for it on youtube if this link was removed
would you advise people against traveling to SF? Put your self in here place.
Jun 13, 2013 3:55 PM
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Jun 21, 2013 11:25 PM
Jun 24, 2013 4:16 AM
24I realized I was too old for independent foreign travel.
How old would that be - 80+? I travel solo (have been all over Egypot) and 'm 67 and female. Wouldn't go on a tour if you paid me to, and nor would many of my friends.
I understand about immigration now...why people want to live in the U.S.
NO - NO - A THOUSAND TIMES NO! I wouldn't live in the USA if you promised me another 10 years of life as a bribe.
Your country would be lovely to live in - if it wasn't for the smug, small-minded people (most of them) that inhabit it. And yes, I have been there. Once. (it was one time too many.)
Still, you did get to see and do everything you wanted: - " All day at the Egyptian Museum, pyramids and sphinx; Abu Simbel and felucca on the Nile @Aswan; Luxor Temple and Valley of the Kings tombs." - so I'm really puzzled as to why you're whingeing.
You remind me of the woman I spent one day with in India. I had to keep on saying "thank you" to make up for her rudeness to the insistent - but still polite - Indians. And when she asked me where I thought she should go next, to my every suggestion she said "Oh, but we've got that in America."
Much better for you to stay at home where you can read the street signs. Perhaps Los Vegas would satisfy your need for 'foreign' travel?
Jun 24, 2013 7:30 AM
25Go-2, you are at it again with your sterotypical comments about Americans and yet your Muslim supremacism will not accept any criticisms, however innocuous, about the Religion of Peace. This is a travel forum not a place for you to expound your prejudices. I have just this moment notified the mods of your abusive comments.
Jun 24, 2013 10:45 AM
Jun 24, 2013 11:26 AM
27This is a travel forum, Go2--it is not a place for you to promote anti-American stereotypes. Americans are like any other people. There are some good and some bad but mostly they exhibit an extrordinary innocence as in giving millions of dollars in foreign aid to an Egyptian regime controlled by the Muslim Brotherhood, an organization that hates them.
Egyptian men do not harass western females because they think that Western men will not fight them, as you imply in a previous post. Are you trying to call into question the courage of Westerners by writing this or are you saying that Egyptians pick only on the weak. What you don't recognize is that mysogeny is a cultural trait which is reinforced by relgion in Egypt and in other parts of the ME.
I reported you to the mods for publishing stereotypes of Americans.
Jun 24, 2013 12:07 PM
Jun 24, 2013 12:42 PM
29I must apologize to you Go 2. The statement that you refer to was made my Cat W, another poster who feels that it is accceptable to stereotype westerners--as cowards. Obviously, they do not intend to delete your anti-American post. They would delete it in an instant however if it was the least bit critical of the Religion of Peace.
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