help with itinerary!
Replies: 15 - Last Post: May 30, 2013 4:19 PM Last Post By: Attila451
May 13, 2013 8:32 AM
help with itinerary!Hi,
I have some questions to plan my itinerary using all public transportation for the first part of my trip from London to Ediburgh. I am having trouble putting it all together by using public transport and to get a variety of experiences and I would appreciate any info you can give me or changes of any sort. Thank you!!.
Arrive London, 8:30 AM, Heathrow--- Cotswolds, 3 nights.
(Are there buses that go directly to this area from Heathrow? Or, would it be better to take the train to Paddington and then on to Moreton-in-Marsh)? I would like to do some easy walks. I read of one out of Moreton.., another from Bourton..and one in Broadway. Hidcote Gardens. Any comments? Best base of operations--Moreton...because of transportation?
Cotswolds-----northern Wales, 4 nights.
(How best to get to this area, train from Moreton.. or)? I would like to see Snowdonia via Welsh Highland Railway out of Caernafon, getting off in Beddgelert to do easy? walk to Aberglaslyn Gorge. I am also interested in the Slate Caverns in Blaenau.. and the Nat'l Slate Museum in Llanberis. If I do Welsh Highland Railway, would that give me a good taste of Snowdonia, or would the Snowdon Mtn. Rail with another walk be better? I would also like to see Conwy for castle and Plas Mawr. Beaumaris? Harlech castle? Suggestions for best base(s) of operation to do this?
northern Wales-----York, 4 nights
(With my schedule above, where would be the best place to catch the train to York?) In York, I would like to see some museums, church and Castle Howard. I am also thinking of going to Pickering and taking the North Yorkshire Moors Railway to Whitby for a night instead of 4 nights in York to see abbey, museum, Robin Hood's Bay? Cook Museum? Other ideas, Fountains Abbey? Leeds for Royal Armouries Museum?
(Again, with schedule above, is it best to leave from York to get to Edin..or???)
Thank you so much!!
May 13, 2013 12:20 PM
1There isn't a single rail company for the whole of the UK, unlike other countries in Europe. Different (private) companies cover different routes and one of these sites will give you information about destinations and tickets.
This link might help if you are looking for a bargain.
It can be difficult to compare prices between different companies and get a good deal but I've found redspottedhanky offers cheaper tickets. Also bear in mind you will get a cheaper ticket if you book in advance instead of buying at the station on the day.
A quick google for heathrow airport gives you the transport options that leave from there.
If you need information about local buses and trains google the name of the city + bus or train.
Also bear in mind there is a national coach company, National Express. Its worth checking to see if they're more convenient than the train and they are usually cheaper, if a bit slower.
I don't understand your last question, is it best to leave from York to get to Edin..or???
The east coast main line passes through York to Edinburgh and the journey takes three hours but there are lots of other train and coach options for getting there from places other than York.
May 13, 2013 1:28 PM
2The hardest part is going to be getting from the Cotswolds to Caernarvon (which isn't on the national rail network). It would be better to get the train to Bangor and then take a bus from there (you can get to Caernarvon, Llanberis and various other places in Snowdonia fairly regularly). Conwy is an easy train ride from Bangor. But even getting to Bangor is going to be a chore - websites are coming up with ± 5:30 journey with 2 or 3 changes.
May 14, 2013 3:45 AM
May 14, 2013 6:27 AM
4The UK aint the easiest place to tour by public transport (nor is most of Western Europe) and trains tend to connect cities and most seem to head for London!.
Are you aware of the cost of train tickets and also the cheaper rates aren't available until after 09.30 singles are especially costly.
Your post does bring up some queries - why 3 days in the Cotswolds - are you rambling?
Welsh Wales is quite delightful but difficult by train.
I suggest you carry on googling your itinerary using bus connections and aslo dont avoid day coach trips from the lerger towns, often good value, particularly for locations like the Welsh coast but you are best arranging that when you get there.
I feel that I cant sensibly advise as your trip seems to be a disjointed jaunt - will be good fun but hard to arrange in advance.
May 15, 2013 2:13 AM
I run walking days in North Wales I could take you out for a guided walk in and around Snowdon, we also run Inspirational Journeys which focus on creating art from the inspiring Welsh wilderness.
May 15, 2013 6:11 AM
May 15, 2013 10:43 AM
May 15, 2013 11:35 AM
May 15, 2013 7:11 PM
9Thanks to everyone for their great advice. I realize now that I will need to scale way down on how much I will be able to see in each place due to time schedules to get the best prices.
I'm now looking at Rail/Air connection from Heathrow to Moreton-in-Marsh. 2 nights taking local buses to a few places to do walks (any suggestions?)
Since I took one night away from the Cotswolds, I can add that extra night to either the Snowdonia area or York area. Which place would you suggest I add it to?
Train from Moreton-in-Marsh to Conwy to spend the night. From there, I'm not sure how or what to do in Snowdonia, probably a combination of buses and trains, still researching. Then on to York and finally Edinburgh both by train.
May 16, 2013 10:06 AM
10Once I get to Wales, I thought the first night could be spent in Conwy just because it will be a long trip, although it could be done at the end of my time in Wales before leaving for York. I’m not sure about the most efficient route and places for the night for my time in Snowdonia area. Here are some thoughts on possibilities:
I could go to Betws-y-Coed as I have heard there are nice walks there (1-2 hrs.), on to the Slate Caverns and take Ffestiniog Railway to see more of the park which would then go on to Porthmadog.
I could see Beaumaris and Caernarfon and possibly make a trip to Llanberis to see the Slate Museum. From there I could take the West Highland Railway and go all the way to Porthmadog or only as far as Beddgelert and get out there to do some walking such as to Abersglaslyn Gorge or along Llyn Dinas.
Any suggestions? Thank you so much!
May 17, 2013 9:48 AM
May 25, 2013 11:43 AM
12From Heathrow to Moreton-in-Marsh, I would suggest taking the 'the Airline' coach from Heathrow to Oxford, and then getting a train from Oxford. This would avoid having to go into London. It's £23 one way from Heathrow to Oxford, which, whilst expensive, saves you the cost of having to get into london from heathrow. The bus station at Gloucester Green in Oxford is only 5 minutes walk from the station, and there are direct trains from Oxford.
You could also consider using Oxford as your base, rather than Moreton, or perhaps move between the two. Oxford itself is worth a visit if you've never been. And there are bus routes to the Cotswolds from Oxford, though perhaps Moreton-in-Marsh might be more suitable.
Hidcote Manor gardens are beautiful but it is very difficult to get to with public transport.
May 26, 2013 3:48 AM
13The best way to get to Moreton in Marsh from Heathrow is not to go into London (wrong direction, expensive) or even the railair bus to Reading (better, but a little expensive) but to get a local bus to Slough, and pick up the train to Moreton from there. All off peak trains to Moreton call at Slough.
£22.80 off peak single for the train - no advance booking needed, it doesn't save anything
The bus station at Gloucester Green in Oxford is only 5 minutes walk from the station
You must be a very fast walker- nearer 10, more with luggage
May 30, 2013 3:06 PM
14Thanks for the advice!
The problem I am having now is booking train tickets online. I live in the U.S. and do not have a credit card with chip/pin capability so I would not be able to use the machines at the stations to get my tickets and some places don't have machines anyway. I get conflicting info from different online train booking sites. Some tickets are off peak day single, some anytime day single and a few are advance which I know I have to buy now. Help!
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