Help! 1 Month -> Peru - Chile - Argentina - Peru <-
Replies: 8 - Last Post: May 10, 2013 4:31 PM Last Post By: Tryfan
May 7, 2013 9:11 AM
Help! 1 Month -> Peru - Chile - Argentina - Peru <-Hello fellow Lonely Planeteers!
I would like to seek your advice/ help with my planned itinerary. I'll be based in Lima from August and come December, will have about 28 days to travel around South America before I head to the US. I plan to head Southwards -
Lima -> bus to Chile -> bus to Patagonia -> bus to Southern tip of South America/ Ushiaia (?) -> bus up to Argentina, Buenos Aires -> bus past Salta, back to Lima.
Given this tight travel schedule, I plan to spend:
1. ~1 week down Chile to Ushaia,
- Past the desert
- See some wineyards
- Must see - Pablo Neruda's home (I'm a fan!)
- Stop by Santiago for a refuel
2. ~2 weeks in Patagonia
- Not sure where to trek yet, or maybe mountain climbing
- Tierra del Fuego is on my do to list!
3. ~1 week just 'slow travelling' up to Buenos Aires,
- Peninsula Valdes
- Walking around Buenos Aires
- 3 days crazy busing to Lima, and stop by Salta on the way.
I think this schedule is as packed as can be - any comments on whether it's do-able/ unrealistic? If so - dyou think I could squeeze in time to go to Iguarus falls in Brazil/ Uruguay?
Would love to hear your thoughts, and please share any experiences if any :) Cheers!
May 7, 2013 11:12 AM
1Do you have any idea of the distance you are trying to cover?
~1 week down Chile to Ushaia
a bus from Lima to Tacna takes 20 hours, a bus from Arica to Santiago takes 26 hours. That's 2 full days in a bus and it takes you only halfway through Chile. And you've not seen a thing.
I think you're trying to cover too much ground. Unless you are going to fly sections, I'd say it's too much. Or you should spend less time in Patagonia.
Also, I've not been myself, but from what i've heard Ushuaia is not necessarily worth going to if you are not going to Antarctica. So you might consider skipping that.
Hiking in Patagonia: W Trek of course in Chile, area around El Chalten in Argentina.
Squeeze in Uruguay, Iguazu Falls? Definitely not.
May 7, 2013 3:41 PM
2C'mon - four weeks ? You aren't being serious are you?
Devino puts it into perspective, although he's kind enough to stop at Santiago. From Santiago to Ushuaia you're looking at another 2-3 full days of buses. From Ushuaia to Rio Gallegos to Puerto Madryn (Península Valdes) is another 12 hours, plus another 18 hours. From Puerto Madryn to Buenos Aires, another 18 hours. From Buenos Aires to Salta, another 21 hours. From Salta to Lima, the shortest route is about 2,700km through Bolivia, say another 40-50 hours.
So, to carry on with the idea which Devino started, I would say your itinerary would involve a minimum of 12, that's twelve by the way, solid days of bus travel. 12 out of 28 is 43% of your entire trip spent schlepping around the continent on buses, spending many nights on them as well. You'll be too exhausted to enjoy any of your remaining 16 days.
I've seen some crazy suggestions on this forum, I really have. But this one takes the biscuit. I think you should take a good, hard look at a map of South America and rethink your idea. There are plenty of options for you - spend 4 weeks discovering Peru (this country alone deserves months, not weeks), or a whistle-stop tour of Bolivia. Your itinerary as you have it laid out here is complete madness.
Thought I'd give it to you straight.
May 7, 2013 4:18 PM
May 7, 2013 5:43 PM
May 8, 2013 8:14 AM
May 8, 2013 10:14 AM
6If you fly from Lima to Santiago (3 Neruda houses: Santiago, Isla Negra and Valparaíso) you could then fly to Punta Arenas, see Patagonia on both sides, crossing by bus from Puerto Natales. You would then need to fly north in Argentina to at least Bariloche and from there you could bus to BA, then fly to Lima. At the very least you are going to have to fly to Patagonia as you simply don't have time to go overland.
Why not eliminate BA and Salta, take a return flight to Santiago from Lima, see a Neruda house, visit a couple of vineyards, bur to Puerto Montt, get a flight from there to Punta Arenas. That will put you within reach of both Chilean (Torres del Paine) and Argentine Patagonia (El Calafate, El Chalten). Return by bus to Chile, back by flight to Puerto Montt, bus north to Santiago and fly back to Lima from there.
You would need: round trip flight Lima/Santiago/Lima and a round trip Puerto Montt/Punta Arenas/Puerto Montt. If you can't afford those flights, you need to seriously reduce your destinations or add on a lot more time.
May 10, 2013 12:00 PM
7Thank you for all the suggestions! And yes, in - your - face answers are much appreciated.
I'll like to add that I would have be based in Lima for 5 months already and would have spent quite a bit of time exploring Peru and around. Considering the suggestions here, I think I would spend my 28 days heading to Patagonia and exploring the area, (skipping Ushuaia) before heading back to Lima by bus - hope this sounds more manageable and does the place justice!
Feel free to comment if anything :)
May 10, 2013 4:31 PM
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