Replies: 56 - Last Post: May 21, 2013 3:17 PM Last Post By: pPamela
Apr 24, 2013 4:28 PM
15I would like to know as well johnney why you wrote #1s attitude could be a cause. What credible reason would that be? My interpretation of irama's post is very similar to that of dc1. I have read through a lot of dc1s postings and what I have read so for are all very credible to me. None of them I would ever consider as trolls.
Apr 24, 2013 5:41 PM
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Apr 24, 2013 8:39 PM
18I don't want to speak for johnney, but my reading of irama's first post is that it lacks compassion. It seems to me like irama is almost saying that it serves this tourist right. I could see how a pervasive attitude like this in a society could lead to people not being very careful with what kind of additives are put into spirits, because those affected are just those hedonistic tourists and they deserve whatever comes to them. I'm sure I'm being too harsh on irama, and that's not what was intended, but I think it could be read that way.
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20In September 2011, former Dunedin man Michael Denton, 30, died in Bali while on a trip with his Perth rugby team after consuming arak, a potent local drink, which was thought to have been methanol-contaminated.
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Apr 24, 2013 11:05 PM
China has some furiously strong araks called baijiu and a drinking culture. No cases of methanol poisoning with anyone. Lots of other food related malpractice though, including fake alcohol packaging.
India has sometimes lots of group deaths from hooch laced with too much methanol at poorer weddings mostly to make it go further, but no touist deaths. They dont have a drinking culture, but make arak(feni/toddy) from the same ingredients as Indonesia.
Idem for the rest of Asia.
As I said yesterday arak will not have enough methanol by itself to be deadly. Brewed locally it is very cheap, cheaper than methanol. Mansion house is a western styled Indonesian spirit not an arak.
Broaden your horisons Anoor.
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Apr 25, 2013 12:50 AM
29This is a tragic and heart-breaking story. I am so sorry that this has happened to your friend. My thoughts are with you, her family, and her friends.
At the very least, shouldn't the Indonesian Tourism Board post warning signs in the arrival halls of all airports?
How can we go about putting pressure on them to do this?
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