2 weeks - Something like Costa Rica, Belize or Borneo but none of these :)
Replies: 21 - Last Post: Apr 7, 2013 3:02 PM Last Post By: travelinstyle46
Mar 22, 2013 1:45 AM
Apr 6, 2013 1:35 PM
16Actually @ mikehuxley...
As of yesterday three (3) different travel insurance carriers said they will not cover me if I traveled to the Sabah region of Eastern Borneo - the U.S., U.K., Australian, all of the EU and even a few SEA countries including the Malaysia government have issued warnings to their citizens to not travel to the region. Which explains why I can get a R/T from KL to Sandakan for $44 USD (including the taxes)
So although you might feel that Sabah is perfectly fine it isn't at the moment... even the Malaysia government would disagree with you.
Personally I am still going to go to Borneo but I will limit my travel around Kuching and the surrounding areas.
Apr 6, 2013 2:02 PM
17Well you never know Toad, the bloke apparently got around! But I will endeavour to be more geographically accurate with my sarcasm! lol!
Actually @jj_in_la, it is common practice for insurance companies not to pay out for travel in regions with travel advisories against them, despite the fact that those very same travel advisories are often highly overly sensitive and have been criticised by many in the past for being overly cautious.
Read this from the Sabah tourist board.
Kopi'vosian and Greetings from Sabah!
The Sabah Tourism Board wish to assure our visitors and partners worldwide that the tourism industry, hotels, island resorts, river, jungle and mountain lodges and activities throughout Sabah including the east coast, are operating business as usual. The various dive destinations of Sipadan, Mabul, Kapalai, Mataking, Pom Pom, Pandanan, Lankayan and Selingan Turtle Island are open for business. In the past few years Malaysian Government has installed armed security personnel on these islands and further beefed up. The National Security Council (NSC) confirmed there is no prohibition to visit the resort islands. All activities continue as usual.
Since Monday 11th March, Malaysian security forces fully secured the remote coastal village Kampung Tanduo, the ground zero where armed intruders holedup for a month. Sabah Commissioner of Police Datuk Hamza Taib said the operations with Tanduo and other affected areas had ended. Villagers are allowed to return to their homes, except for Kampung Tanduo which will become a military base. These villages are more than 150km from Lahad Datu town and are NOT in the tourist route.
The State Government and people of Sabah welcome the Prime Minister's announcement of the setting up of the Eastern Sabah Security Zone (ESSZONE) along the entire east coast of Sabah from Kudat in the north to Sandakan, Lahad Datu, Semporna and Tawau in the southeast. This is timely to prevent intrusions, illegal entry and smuggling from neighbouring countries. The ESSZONE is for the significant enhancement of the security and safety of the whole Sabah east coast, including the islands.
The USA Homeland security has its complex military efforts of 3,169km US-Mexico border against infiltrations and smuggling. Australian Government has its ADF operations that defends homeland Australia extending up to 200km to the faraway islands to protect its maritime domain from security threats that include illegal arrivals, maritime terrorism etc.
Travelers who wish to travel to Sabah have the option to purchase travel insurance. Please refer to your local/Sabah travel agent.
We welcome the revised and favourable Foreign Travel Advisories. Inspector General of Police Tan Sri Ismail Omar assured the public, visitors and tourists their safety. "I would like to assure tourists that it is safe to travel to Sabah." Ismail said.
So do what you like, I'm not forcing you to travel in one region or another, I'm just saying that Sabah will be perfectly fine. If we all followed those damn travel advisories to the letter we'd never go anywhere! Hell, even London had one against it for years after the last terrorist bombing!
Apr 6, 2013 2:14 PM
18Mike, that's the point... you should be telling people they will be perfectly fine when you don't know that to be a fact. Exercising caution is one thing, but assuring and downplaying what are facts isn't being straight with someone.
Personally I have seen my share of stuff while working in the UN Peacekeeping forces in Central Africa so I could do without the hassle. Anyway, to each their own but I think we both would agree its a shame what's going on over there.
Apr 6, 2013 5:10 PM
19No you got the point completely backward. We SHOULD be telling people they will be fine in light of the oversensitive nature of FCO warnings and the DOZENS of posts daily bleating will i be safe? Noone has a crystal ball, noone can guarantee anything! i may even get run over by a bus outside my home ffs! But that wont stop me going out will it? Ah i love newbies coming on and throwing credentials like that about. One thing experience like that SHOULD have taught you is perspective of the wider picture. As i said im not forcing anyone to go anywhere or not, im just saying common sense should prevail over safety over manafactured fear.
Apr 6, 2013 9:19 PM
Apr 7, 2013 3:02 PM
21Time was when a traveller didn't know much or care much about government warnings. Time was when a traveller was looking for adventure rather than a safety first tour.
Adventure by definition requires two things, the unknown and risk. Remove either and it's a tour.
Back in 1971 on my first long term trip I had a few interesting moments. The first was in the Sahara when my buddies and I were arrested for murder. Seems another VW camper was following the same route and they had 3 guys and 1 girl. We were just 3 guys. Since leaving someone in the desert between towns is the same as murdering them, when we checked in at one town we were arrested. Mistaken identity.
The next interesting moment was when we crossed the border into Uganda on the day Idi Amin took power. Also known as 'the butcher of Uganda'. Our time there was uneventful.
Not so a bit farther on when we were stopped by a rebel patrol and taken at gunpoint down a road to be 'interviewed' by their officer. We seriously considered jumping from the back of the truck and making a run for it through the bush. We didn't, the officer accused us of being 'foreign mercenaries', questioned us for an hour an finally let us go.
In Victoria Falls, trying to sell a watch to get a little cash I was arrested again. This time accused of having stolen the watch. Again, it worked out ok.
In Cape Town, I made the mistake of talking to a young black girl in the wrong neighbourhood and was chased by an angry group all the way to the Police Station where I ran in and took refuge. All in a day's travel.
I don't advocate that anyone go to a war zone knowingly. But I don't advocate that they take every warning of 'unrest' as a total ban on travel. It's just as easy to get somewhere and have something happen at that time.
In 1973, I was off travelling again. I planned to go to Israel for the winter and work on a kibbutz. After a stop in the UK and then hitch hiking across France and Italy, I arrived in Taranto, Italy with the intent of taking a freighter over to Israel (you could still hop freighters in those days).
At the booking office the guy behind the counter kept trying to tell me something but my Italian wasn't good enough to really understand him. All I heard him saying was no. Finally, he went into the back office and came back with a newspaper. The headline 'Israele Invade.' It was the Yom Kippur war. I didn't get a ship to Israel. But if I had been a week earlier arriving in Taranto, no doubt I would have and found myself in a country at war.
Look at the Achille Lauro. A cruise ship of ordinary tourists and it got hi-jacked. Guess what, their insurance wouldn't cover them either. Going to a country on a government watch list isn't the only way to lose your insurance coverage.
Come to that, I never bought travel insurance till I passed age 50.
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