Skiing at Christmas from New York
Replies: 12 - Last Post: Mar 19, 2013 3:00 PM Last Post By: Powerlurker
Mar 12, 2013 3:45 AM
Skiing at Christmas from New YorkHi,
Travelling to NY before Christmas but want to be skiing between Chrismas/New Year. We are looking for a good ski area with accommodation on the fields so we can ski from the accom if possible. Also looking for accom that sleeps 10.
Have beginner and intermediate skiers and want good facilities in the resort without costing the earth.
Looking at Colarado or somewhere within easy travel distance from NY.
Appreciate any advice.
Mar 12, 2013 5:34 AM
1Colorado is a long, long way from New York, so I assume you are willing to fly. If that is the case, then the whole country is open for you.
As for "costing the earth", well, skiing is a rich man's sport. Be prepared to pay between $35 - $60 per day per person for lift tickets. If you don't have all your own gear, then add rental fees on top of that. then of course there is the travel expense of getting there and bck plus lodging. Many ski resorts have dormitory-style lodging for budget skiers and some areas have large cities nearby (i.e. Salt Lake City).
Mar 12, 2013 5:35 AM
Mar 12, 2013 6:51 AM
3There are lots of skiing opportunities in New York state and nearby Vermont. Heck a winter Olympics was held in New York's Adirondack mountains at Lake Placid.
I live near NY and my son's scout troop has an annual ski trip at nearby Hunter Mountain.
Kids with zero equipment (like my son) paid $102 for the last trip. Lift tickets, Equipment rental, and a introductory lesson were included. Transportation, food lodging etc. were extra.
You can easily rent a 10-passenger (or 12-passenger) van and drive to either NY or Vermont ski destinations. I'm sure with that many people, van rental and skiing at lake Placid would be far less expensive than flying out west.
Mar 12, 2013 8:39 AM
4If you're willing to fly and don't want to rent a car, you can consider Park City, Utah. There are lots of accommodations options at the three resorts there that are right by the lifts, including many condos. And there are shuttles from the Salt Lake City airport and around Park City, so renting a car is not necessary.
If you can rent a car from NYC, you can drive to many of the resorts in the area such as Windham, Hunter or further out like Killington or Stowe, Vermont.
Mar 13, 2013 12:43 AM
5I agree with LI Bob ... there are many ski resorts within 100-200mi of New York City - for the price of 10 x return airfares to Colorado, I am sure you will find somewhere great nearby. In fact, with the money saved on fares (and all the other transaction cost of Colorado) you can rent a minibus with driver, plus a big condo, I expect!
If you really require high-altitude champagne powder snow, then Colorado might be essential for you, but even there you might still be relying on man-made snow in December.
Mar 18, 2013 9:50 AM
6For a "destination" quality ski experience in the vicinity of NYC, you're likely heading to the Adirondacks (Gore or Whiteface) or driving to Vermont. If you aren't averse to driving (5.5-6 hrs from NYC), Smuggler's Notch in northern VT has great family programs and is cheaper than Stowe on the other side of the mountain, and both sell passes that let you ski between the two locations (one caveat: Smuggler's Notch has no high-speed lifts). True ski-in-ski-out accommodations are harder to find in the east than in the west, but they exist as do shuttle-out-ski-in situations. Farther south in VT, you have Killington, one of the largest ski areas on the east coast, and mountains like Okemo (lots of intermediate terrain and a quick look at their website indicates the availability of ski-in-ski-out lodging that could hold your group) or Stratton.
Mar 18, 2013 11:03 PM
7Just to give you an idea, the period between Christmas and New Years is THE BUSIEST time of the ski season, no doubt. You will pay at least $80/pp for a lift ticket. ($35-$60 for a lift ticket is a pipe dream. Even half-day lift tickets will be over $60) Accommodation on the mountain within skiing distance of the lifts will come at a premium.
I live in a ski town. I don't get close to the mountain between Christmas and New Years because of the crowds. This isn't meant to deter you, but to give you a realistic idea of what to expect. It will be expensive. There are no deals to be found this time of year.
Mar 19, 2013 4:23 AM
Mar 19, 2013 11:35 AM
9We were skiing on real snow by the end of November. Two major storms came through in December and dumped five feet of snow. So to answer your question, in the Cascades we had plenty of beautiful. fluffy, skiable snow. I would say that most places in the Rockies, Cascades and Sierras have enough of a base by the end of December that they don't have to make any. I can't answer for East Coast skiing, though.
Jackson Hole two years ago had plenty of real snow by the end of December. Umm... Vail/Beaver Creek about 10 years ago had plenty of snow by mid-December. Even Michigan's Upper Peninsula has always had about 3-6 feet of snow by the end of December. That's all I have to go on. Anecdotal at best, but a good cross-section.
Mar 19, 2013 2:24 PM
10Thanks trixie ... yes ... we've had wonderful experiences with fluffy snow in the Rockies, so I was mostly asking about the lower-elevation resorts dotted around New England, Pennsylvania, etc.
In fact, when we visited Crater Lake NP on 31 August 2011, there were high snow banks on the shaded sides of the hills. The young ranger said there had been 35-40 feet of snow over the road, and in fact it had only been open since July! Staggering amounts of snow ... certainly from the perspective of this warm-climate dweller. We have quite a few large ski resorts, but the season is limited, and the snow often dodgy.
Mar 19, 2013 2:45 PM
Mar 19, 2013 3:00 PM
12Vermont can be hit-or-miss at Xmas time. I've been there when they've had fresh snow through the whole holiday, and I've been there when it got to 60 degrees and rained on the 27th. Last year the skiing was okay and then 3 feet fell on the 26th. On the whole, the weather is more variable than out west, it gets both colder and warmer. If you do go, plan to ski over Xmas and leave on the 26th. The crowds get crazy on the 27th (a lot of people like to have Xmas at home and drive up on the 26th.)
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