The favourite foods of France
Replies: 61 - Last Post: Mar 8, 2013 11:05 PM Last Post By: Kerouac2
Mar 7, 2013 1:05 AM
45Kerouac2, refering to what I quoted you saying in #43, perhaps you are right after all :
the latest from the BBC
Edited by: piaczka
Mar 7, 2013 3:32 AM
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Mar 7, 2013 5:54 AM
48When we moved to Poland twenty years ago from the UK and I would buy some chicken pieces and put them in the fridge, the next day they would already look like they were going off. That never happened in the UK. It doesn't happen anymore in Poland. I can keep the chicken in the fridge for three days before using it. That I guess is progress... sorry, processed.. food for you. Yuh!
Mar 7, 2013 8:09 AM
49"Processed meat" as defined by that study is meat that is "treated by salting, curing, or smoking." That wouldn't be your chicken. The improved shell-life of fresh chicken is probably due to better handling--chilling it faster after slaughter and keeping it cold in transit. There was probably less regulation (or less enforcement) in Poland 20 years ago--for example, on how long after slaughter chicken could be sold or how cold it had to be kept. Or even how clean the slaughterhouse had ot be.
That study found that there was no association between poultry consumption and mortality.
They studied people in 10 European countries. Where no cities are mentioned, it was lots of cities.
Italy (Florence, Varese, Ragusa, Turin, Naples)
Spain (Asturias, Granada, Murcia, Navarra, San Sebastian)
The Netherlands (Bilthoven, Utrecht)
United Kingdom (UK; Cambridge, Oxford)
Greece, Germany (Heidelberg, Potsdam)
Sweden (Malmö, Umea)
Denmark (Aarhus, Copenhagen)
I can't find info on processed meat consumption, the Economist analyzed the most recent FAO data on overall meat consumption. Kings of the carnivores. The country with the highest per capita consumption in the world is Luxembourg. Austria has the highest consumption of pork--I'll bet a lot of that is processed.
Mar 7, 2013 10:29 AM
50Who taught people to avoid fat? Probably the same people who decided the cholesterol was bad, but maybe not, or perhaps this kind is okay, well we're not sure, everything in moderation is fine -- and so forth and so on.
The 'experts' are always pushing their own agenda whatever it is and that's why there are so many contradictions.
When I go to France, I want couscous and I also want tartiflette.
Mar 7, 2013 2:11 PM
51One might wonder if things like pizza or couscous are really foreign dishes after having been adapted so long in a different country. Pizza in the United States certainly does not resemble pizza in Italy, for example, and since it is the #1 dish in that country, I would not at all consider it to be foreign. If I am not mistaken, nobody has ever tried to say that hamburgers are a German dish in the United States.
And can anybody prove that mussels are more Belgian than a dish of any other country that eats mussels?
Mar 7, 2013 3:24 PM
52There is a parody of the American folksong "Shenandoah" called Mamma Mia, I love your pizza
One stanza goes like this:
Those foreign foods
Like turnip greens,
Black eyed peas
And pork and beans--
We gave them up
'Cause nothing beats a
American dish o' pizza.
The plural of anecdote is not data.
Mar 8, 2013 5:12 AM
53I don't think anyone said that mussels were Belgian, Kerouac. Or that steak is French. The restaurant menu item moules-frites is Belgian, however, and steak-frites is French. At least originally. "Of French origin" is what I meant when I said "French" above.
The hamburger, defined as a patty of ground beef without extenders, grilled or fried and served as a sandwich, originated in the US as far as I know.
Mar 8, 2013 5:46 AM
Mar 8, 2013 8:39 AM
55#49, oh well and there I was thinking that Poland did something better than the West for a change... :) thanks nutrax for that insight. I still like to think the dill I buy from that lady selling it from her little scarf spread over the ground in the market is healthier than the dill I'd buy in the supermarket!
Mar 8, 2013 10:28 AM
56I have been proud to grow dill on my windowsill in Paris and love to use it even though I know it must be horribly polluted by all of the passing traffic and much worse than any dill that I might buy at the market.
It's all in the mind.
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