Best rucksack for hand luggage only
Replies: 29 - Last Post: Nov 26, 2013 2:12 AM Last Post By: SandraEccleston83
Feb 28, 2013 2:09 PM
Best rucksack for hand luggage onlyCan anyone recommend the biggest small rucksack which will get through such very tight controls as Ryanair has but still open up to allow a reasonable amount of extra space?
I usually like to carry full camping gear, and I might be able to get this down to the weight allowance, but bulk is another matter. I know it may be possible to stuff a lot of things in my jacket pockets.
Basically looking for a rucksack which will compress to fit the carry-on space constraints, which in my experience are enforced strictly on Ryanair at any rate. One of my bugbears is the lack of minimalism in products on sale which make this more difficult.
Feb 28, 2013 4:41 PM
1Ryanair's carry-on allowance is actually pretty close to industry standard, and better than some. Where it's strict is that they make no exceptions to their one-piece-only rule.
In any case their regulation is 10kg with maximum dimensions of 55cm x 40cm x 20cm. That's generous enough to accommodate my Osprey Porter 46 litre backpack which is easily big enough to travel indefinitely via hostel/hostel through warmish countries with lots of room left over.
Mar 1, 2013 3:11 AM
Mar 1, 2013 9:22 AM
3First, you need to realize that Ryanair's requirements are not universal. So unless you are only ever going to fly with them, you need to consider ALL airlines' requirements. To get what you are asking for you would have to go with the smallest dimension allowed and the lowest weight allowed. Here is one site that has a fairly extensive but not total list. http://www.luggageonline.com/travel-guides/airline-weights-and-restrictions As you will see, dimensions vary greatly.
Then there is weight which also varies greatly. Some airlines only allow 5kg. max for carry-on.
Third is contents. This is becoming the biggest obstacle to carry-on. No liquid greater than 100g for example is common. http://www.aircanada.com/en/travelinfo/airport/baggage/liquid_rules.pdf That makes travelling carry-on quite difficult actually.
From my perspective, I see carry-on as going the way of the Dodo eventually.
Mar 2, 2013 4:55 PM
4Interesting... thanks for the replies guys.
I can't see how liquids are a problem. They are the first thing you will ditch to get your weight down (hair conditioner, fabric softener if you are on the wrong branch, or cooking fuel which is not allowed in checked-in baggage anyway).
Yes, I want to carry camping gear so whatever the weather I can live comfortably without "contributing to the local economy". Lightweight tent, sleeping bag, compact stove, one aluminium pan do not amount to much. That is basically what I mean by camping gear.
I will check out the Osprey brand referred to. Thanks.
BTW Ryanair may not have the strictest weight limits , but they have the strictest enforcement of both weight and bulk that I have seen.
Edited by: MrRipio
Mar 3, 2013 9:01 AM
5Sorry to hijack this thread, but my request is similar enough as to not need a new thread.
I am flying with Easy Jet soon and their hand luggage allowance is 56cm x 45cm x25cm.
Sadly my old Deuter Futura 32 backpack has succumbed to a mould infestation in storage so I need a new pack. Does anybody have any recommendations as to a good pack that falls within these dimensions and is around the 32l capacity mark? Also I am 6'3" so would prefer a pack that is as tall as possible.
So far I have looked at the latest Deuter Futura 32 and also the Osprey Talon II 33l.
Thanks in advance.
Mar 3, 2013 9:09 AM
6If you're after a top loading hiking backpack there are loads of options on the market like the two you've already mentioned. I'm sure you'll get some suggestions from others here.
If you're after a travel backpack then Reply #1 works. Don't be put-off by the 46 litres, it cinches down very small.
Good luck with your search.
Mar 3, 2013 9:43 AM
7Mr Ripio, at this point it becomes necessary to specify how much weight you will need to carry and where you will fly to on what airline. I am quite sure that if you are flying somewhere and intend to camp for a week or more, you are not going to be able to meet the lowest airline weight limit of 5kg.
So your question as asked has been answered.
Blackers, it is always better to start your own thread. Simply because more people will see it. When you 'hi-jack' someone else's thread it does not show up on everyone's first page. It depends on how they have their preferences set.
Your problem is the 56cm limit on height obviously. A standard backpack is generally high, narrow and thin in simple terms. You need short, not so narrow and thick in general terms to fit the limitations. In other words, the general shape of a suitcase.
Have you considered a travel pack? For example, the Osprey Farpoint 40 has dimensions of 53x33x23 compared to your Futura dimensions of 66x33x23. The Farpoint is a 40L pack while the new Futura although called a 32 is in fact a 50L pack. http://www.ospreypacks.com/en/product/backpacking/farpoint_40?tab=specifications
Having now looked at several sites on the Futura I find it confusing. The call it 32L and yet the dimensions given here: http://www.rei.com/product/810376/deuter-futura-32-pack of 26x13x9 inches is 3042 cu. in. which is 50L. As is the 66.33x23 cm dimension converted to litres.
In any case a travel pack may be the answer but it depends on what kind of travel you are planning to do with your pack. Obviously, a travel pack is not designed for the same type of travel as a normal backpack. A travel pack is designed primarily for urban travel with the ability to be used for hiking for shor periods. A normal backpack is designed for the oppposite.
Also, at 6'3" your other major problem may be finding a pack to fit your torso length. Do you know your torso length? Most packs even when adjustable fit up to 21" (including the Futura). You can find lots of info on measuring your torso length online. Here is one: http://www.rei.com/learn/expert-advice/backpacks-torso-hip-size.html
Mar 3, 2013 10:25 AM
8Cheers for the quick and extremely helpful response Travelinstyle.
Thanks for the guidance on the new thread too. So many forums seems to go mental about similar threads.
I considered a daypack but they seem to bulk outwards when full which puts me off I think. What I liked about the Futura was that it remained quite shallow when full which made is easier to wear for longer periods. It also had an excellent frame/mesh/support thing.
The Osprey Fairpoint looks good but I have an Osprey Sojourn, which is a bigger pack along the same design lines. Although the Sojourn has straps to be work as a pack it is blood uncomfortable. Luckily it is an astoundingly good pull along and survived 6 months around the world being dragged up and down all sorts of roads.
It is interesting that the latest Futura is stated as 66cm tall. I measured it yesterday and it was more like 56cm, and I would think that the lid would pull down tight to reduce this even further.
So I think it really needs to be something similar in design the Futura. I think another visit to Cotswold with a tape measure is in order maybe.
Mar 3, 2013 10:31 AM
Mar 3, 2013 1:46 PM
10LOL, my wife Skypes her sister in Scotland from here (Canada) and the call can last for days. Good thing Skype is free.
Another alternative blackers would be to reduce the size of the pack you need. In other words revisit your packing list. Have a look at this thread: http://www.lonelyplanet.com/thorntree/thread.jspa?threadID=2280830
The key is to weigh every item you carry. If someone does not know the weight of every item in their pack I guarantee they could reduce their weight and by extension bulk and pack size.
As you will see, I use a 25+4 litre pack. I bought it in the UK. http://www.ubergear.co.uk/vaude-triset-25-4.html
Mar 5, 2013 11:43 AM
11Hmmm, a smaller pack could be a problem I think. I like to travel fairly light but not at the expense of some luxury (netbook, 2 pairs of shoes). The mouldy Deuter seemed to be on the limit for me. That said I do rather like the price of your pack there!
I'm going to take a closer look at the Osprey Fairpoint at the weekend as I am starting to see the appeal. Hopefully Cotswold will have the Vaude in stock too so I can get a better feel for the size.
Cheers for your help. No doubt I will be back with more questions after the weekend.
Mar 5, 2013 12:56 PM
12#7 No need to specify such details. My question was in the first paragraph so you can forget the rest.
Ryanair carry-on limit is 10kg. I agree 5kg is a bit different.
All I am interested in is finding the best rucksack which will fit the rucksack-unfriendly constraints of the airline carry-on regulations. When I flew on Ryanair a few weeks ago they weighed and boxed everyone's carry-on bag. It has to fit in the box, which is designed for trundle-bags, not for rucksacks.
Mar 5, 2013 4:24 PM
13Umm, I don't appreciate your tone MrRipio.
Your post is titled, "Best rucksack for hand luggage only" It does not specify a particular airline. Furthermore, you wrote in your 'first paragraph', "Can anyone recommend the biggest small rucksack which will get through such very tight controls as Ryanair" which specifically addresses airlines other than Ryanair in the use of the word "as".
A search for 'hand luggage' here would have found you various threads on this same subject but you chose instead to ask a question that has been asked and answered many times. I chose to answer rather than just telling you to do your own homework ie. use the search function, not because I thought your question was worthy of answering for you but because many other people would no doubt read the thread. Or did you think we only answer for you?
In #3 I answered your question as asked in your OP, correctly and said so in #7. The rest of #7 was addressed to blackers who acknowledged and THANKED ME for my response.
If you think you will only ever fly Ryanair in your life or want to buy a pack only for when you fly with them, that's up to you. Personally, I find that amusing. You are of course free to 'forget the rest' of what I have written if you like and at your future cost no doubt.
Finally, if all you wanted was a list of packs that will fit Ryanair's dimension limitations, you could Google that for yourself. Or is that too hard for you to do? I'm happy to advise you that the Osprey Porter 46's dimensions are 55x35x23. Larger than Ryanair's size restrictions. Fill it and it won't fit in the 'box'. There are of course many packs that will fit within their dimensions that I know of but now have on intention of telling you of.
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