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shilgia

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Feb 20, 2013 7:45 AM
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Trying again

Seeing how my previous post got removed just after stefo came in (now you saw it, too, stefo!)
Here's how to make it SiT-related: in regimes that have extensive censorship (North Korea, China, Burma/Myanmar, etc.), what are the words used to describe "censorship"? "Censorship," at least in English, has negative connotations. Is there a neutral or positive word that such regimes might use?

stefo

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Feb 20, 2013 7:55 AM
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I'm speechless (also SiT - related in a way...).

To answer your question, "selection" is what comes to mind as a neutral word which may be used in that context. Can't think of a positive one - maybe "promotion of the worthy" or something like that.

sashac001

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Feb 20, 2013 8:49 AM
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Online thesaurus brings up words with similar/worse connotations: blackout, blue pencil, bowdlerization, control, forbidding, hush up, infringing on rights, iron curtain, restriction, suppression, thought control. My favorite being thought control, of course. Promotion of the worthy sounds better until it occurs to you that you're post is being called unworthy if it's taken out.

stefo

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Feb 20, 2013 9:20 AM
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Of course it does. Censorship is never pleasant for thoses that are censored.

zashibis

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Feb 20, 2013 10:22 AM
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Oh, snap! My first response to this thread appears to have been deleted. Because the last thing you can do in 1984-world is impute the moral integrity of Big Brother.

Anyway, toned way down, the gist was that in the Humpty-Dumpty world of totalitarian systems words that read as "negative" in the Free World are generally given positive valences. "Ministry of Propaganda" = hunky-dory in China. (In English they now call it the "Ministry of Publicity," but the Chinese hasn't changed.) Similarly, here in Saudi, the Committee for the Promotion of Virtue and the Prevention of Vice (colloquially called mutaween by the rest of us) is very proud of its name and its role, even though the vast majority of the population despises them. Ergo, mutaween in Arabic can either be a term of highest praise or vilest imprecation depending on context and who's doing the talking.

TT, of course, will never cop to "censorship," only "moderation" (sounds so moderate!) even though what's happening now on TT compares in most particulars to what the Chinese experience on a daily basis on Weibo.

chriskean1

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Feb 20, 2013 11:24 AM
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In Cuba, which I pick on because I have some familiarity, censorship is or was the responsibility of the PCC's Department of Revolutionary Orientation. This is in keeping with the constitutional acrobatics many governments go through, recognizing freedom of expression but only when it's consistent with the narrow goal of "building socialism," keeping to prescribed topics and modes of expression, limiting (or eliminating) private interactions, or whatever.

stefo

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Feb 20, 2013 11:46 AM
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And we need the edit function back! I must have been in a hurry (I was, actually, thinking of it) when I typed #3

Kerouac2

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Feb 20, 2013 12:09 PM
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I can't think of a positive "censorship" word. I think that those regimes (and even our own regimes, when they do it) prefer to talk about removing seditious, blasphemous, inflammatory, etc., items for the common good. No censorship in that, just promotion of the common good! Maybe.

Quailia

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Feb 21, 2013 8:41 AM
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I believe the term you're looking for is public relations

or possibly "re-education"

Kerouac2

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Feb 21, 2013 10:04 AM
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I'll have to ask my spin doctor.

iviehoff

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Feb 22, 2013 2:31 AM
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In Britain, one euphemism for it is Classification, as in the British Board of Film Classification. Everyone calls it the British Board of Film Censorship, because that is what it is, to the extent that I think many people think it is really called that - I know I did for a long time.

VinnyD

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Feb 22, 2013 5:23 AM
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It was the British Board of Film Censors from 1912 to 1984, when I believe it became part of the Minisry of Truth.

chriskean1

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Feb 22, 2013 5:57 AM
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The censor uses modern technology and official resources to boost the comparative visibility of desired opinions, and to deflect, redact or suppress information and points of view deemed contrary to the official line (or in less severe cases, those deemed to diverge too far from an arbitrarily chosen, intentionally undefined limit of acceptability). It's often necessary to project an illusory responsiveness to criticism and questioning of authority, in order to achieve the official goal.

I agree with zashibis that "moderation" is a nice, neutral-sounding term compared to anything in 1984, for instance: "We shall squeeze you empty and then we shall fill you with ourselves."

Kerouac2

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Feb 22, 2013 6:51 AM
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Let us not forget that many airlines "edit" films for our viewing pleasure.

sashac001

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Feb 22, 2013 7:04 AM
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Let us not forget that many airlines "edit" films for our viewing pleasure

Yup, I've to find viewing pleasure in their "editing".
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