visa extension help please!
Replies: 15 - Last Post: Feb 20, 2013 2:53 AM Last Post By: pneopyga
Feb 18, 2013 5:36 AM
visa extension help please!Hi all,
I'm due to go to the philippines next week for 5 weeks and have just realised you only get a 21 day visa on entry!
I realise you can get an extension when you get there,but will I have problems with my airline or immigration due to the fact my return ticket is after the 21 day visa expires? Would it help to buy a cheap single ticket out of the philippines within the 21 day limit ? If so wheres the cheapest place to go to(it doesnt matter where as I wont be using it!)
Im confused at the moment ,so any help would be appreciated!
Feb 18, 2013 6:47 AM
Feb 18, 2013 8:17 AM
Feb 18, 2013 2:30 PM
Feb 18, 2013 2:56 PM
4There is no need for the return ticket to be within 21 days. I have contacted the visa section in Manila and they have confirmed this to me by e mail although some airlines and even some foreign consulates do not know the rules. I posted on this very subject around October complete with the references, you can try an advance search or contact the visa section by e mail for clarification then you will have something to show the airline if they get silly.
Feb 18, 2013 3:01 PM
Feb 18, 2013 4:00 PM
6No problem, get the 21 days at the airport and extend it at an immigration office, there are a number of them spread around the Islands. There is an easy one in Boracay, just make sure your dressed conservative, no shorts or beach wear!
Many countries, ie Indonesia, India have short Visas these days so the airlines are used to them expiring before your return ticket.
Feb 18, 2013 6:47 PM
Ok you asked. My advice get the visa. Search the Thailand pages for lots of info on this very problem. The airlines can be a problem. Immigration is not, usually. I have seen people in your situation refused boarding. Also in January I was asked to show an onward ticket within the visa free period before being allowed to board at Heathrow. I asked that if i did not have one would i be refused boarding, I was told yes. It is a real lottery. Your choices, take a chance, get written confirmation from the airline you will be allowed to board,get a visa, get an onward and cash it in when u arrive or do not go.
Feb 18, 2013 10:23 PM
8although some airlines and even some foreign consulates do not know the rules
This is where the problem is, the airlines have to follow the instructions on the screen in front of them and no amount of arguing or presenting an e-mail from the BoI is going to hep that. These airlines won't even accept an onward ticket shown to them on a laptop/tablet, it has to be a print out so I'm not convinced an e-mail would sway them in the slightest!
Here is our personal experience - we nearly always enter on a 59 day visa, we always get asked on check-in for an onward ticket. We present an onward ticket within 59 days and the check in staff say they won't accept it as it's over 21 days. We then explain we have a 59 day visa in advance, so they then inspect the visa, call their supervisor over and then get permission to accept the onward ticket which is over 21 days and log all the visa details next to our onward flight information.
We enter the Philippines every 59 days from a variety of places in SE Asia on a variety of airlines and it's always the same story.
Feb 19, 2013 4:16 AM
9Thank you very much for all your replies,much appreciated!
I think Im going to go to London a couple of days earlier next week and make sure Ive got the correct visa.I cant get hold of anyone at the embassy,but I gather it takes two days.I hope so because that means I'll go to the embassy next monday and fly out on the wednesday.
I take it they don't do a same day service?
Feb 19, 2013 4:22 AM
10Thinking about it,the Philippine authorities don't do themselves any favours here do they?
I havent been on holiday for a few years and fancy going away for five instead of three weeks.
I'm only going to spend more money in a longer period so why put me off going there.I was very tempted to go to thailand instead.
Feb 19, 2013 5:41 AM
11the onward ticket does not have to be in the 21 days. I got the willies about this in October, but it was quite unnecessary, and I ended up spending 1,600 pesos needlessly. However if you are in London, you might as well go the embassy and get a visa.
Feb 19, 2013 9:43 PM
12at the airport in London LHR you now need have a outward ticket with in 21 days
of a visa for 59 days.
or yes you could buy a one way air ticket out of the Philippines with in the 21 days.
(Clark to Hong Kong from 20 pounds).
I was told that in November 2012 with Cathay pacific airlines.
and for sure at Bangkok and KL airports they ask to see a outward ticket from
the Philippines before they let you on the plane to the Philippines.
Feb 19, 2013 9:48 PM
Feb 19, 2013 10:03 PM
14I was told that in November 2012 with Cathay pacific airlines.
I was told that too in about September, by Trailfinders and together with other scare stories, that caused me to get an extra ticket that I had no plans to use, within the 21 days. I'd never seen fit, to do this before.
but in the event, nobody asked to see it. The ticket I had, 118 days in the future was enough. If I hadn't had any onward ticket at all though, I'm sure the airline would have said something.
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