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london 40 yrs laterpopping over to lon don for a quick view

Replies: 47 - Last Post: Feb 10, 2013 5:38 AM Last Post By: bellart1

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poppageorge

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Feb 2, 2013 7:45 AM
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get inline behind my kids lol. re lack of pun ctuation s,.till not bad for 15 yr old school leaver. my 25 yrs old gd just moaned about my lack of puntyuation s etc . i. ts the message not the medium

go_2

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Feb 2, 2013 9:18 AM
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I left school at 16 and nothing wrong with my punctuation. So it's NOT good for a '15. y.o. school leaver'. Writing is a means of communication - try some evening classes and stop excusing yourself. :>))

But, actually, I came in to say read my posting above about the Shard, which opened yesterday, and which could be an excellent thing to do in itself as well as giving you a view of London as she is today.

You might also think about taking a river boat to the O2 centre, which costs just a little more on your Oyster card, then taking a bus to Greenwich and walking through the tunnel under the Thames to link up with a DLR (Docklands Light Railway) train back to the centre. All this can be done on a Zone 1-2 Oyster card.

billthehammer

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Feb 2, 2013 1:00 PM
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What a bunch of snobs,,, this is a travel forum, not an English litrature exam... When any of you critics post on another countrys branch do you speak in their lingo??? or even attempt to...

go_2

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Feb 2, 2013 1:53 PM
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bill - seems like you could do with some comprehension lessons. (The OP was raised in this country.)
I'm willing to provide you with help, but my fees are not low. Let me know if you'd like a few lessons.

Paddox

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Feb 2, 2013 2:42 PM
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It's not snobbish to expect a level of literacy that can be read and understood. Non native speakers might well read the post, want to help out and be flummoxed by the poor grammar and spelling. If the person is dyslexic etc, there are many computer programmes out there to help.

Another change since the seventies - the tube has got more expensive, more unreliable, more packed and is held to ransom by the unions who want ridiculous amounts of money for going in one direction through a tunnel.

billthehammer

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Feb 3, 2013 7:45 AM
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If the person was talking to you personally would you keep correcting their grammer???. No, of course you wouldn,t, so why when people make speeling mistakes on here do some people think they are so superior and think they are being smart arses and correct them???. If that said person was asking a question on say the Polish branch would they attempt to write their enquirery out in Polish???, of course not...
Anyway folks, keep paying those expensive tube fares, the unions are sharpening up their knives for the late night running negotiations so the poor tube drivers can afford to have an even bigger swimming pool in their retirement villas...

Alex2306

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Feb 3, 2013 12:31 PM
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The proposed late running is only at the weekend. Why should 99% of passengers stomach yet more increases to buy off the unions to work a couple of hours extra to benefit the clubbers who previously paid extortionate taxi fares.
The management used the Olympic late running as a precedent. What they failed to mention was how much they had to buy the staff of with, and not just drivers but the fact that all but emergency engineering work stopped for 3 months.
How would they deliver their upgrade programme?

billthehammer

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Feb 5, 2013 12:54 AM
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It's a catch 22 Alex. The privatised firms who run the maintenance depots have cut staff so much to gain profits for the fat cat shareholders that trains are coming into service badly prepared that they get taken out of service because of defects. They only have a small period of time between close and start of service to get the fleet ready. Less time = more cancelations thus causing delays and disruption to the morning service. And thats not taking into account of the regular upgrades and maintenance as you stated...
A new timetable for all the subsideries who maintain the Tube in the twilight hours will have to be written. It will just lead to increased fares to cover this...

Alex2306

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Feb 5, 2013 1:27 AM
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If the passenger groups get a say in this, but I assume they don't, it wont happen.
But when do LU or the Unions give a damn about the passengers.

Alex2306

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Feb 5, 2013 1:29 AM
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And LU have been boasting the highest service level in history so that doesn't really support what you say about taking trains out of service.

billthehammer

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Feb 6, 2013 4:43 AM
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Trains do get taken out regulary, if there is less time to prepare them then it will happen more often. LUL like number juggleing. It is a fact that passenger journeys are on the increase, it just takes them a little longer to make that journey or squeeze onto a packed train.
BTW the unions do keep passengers intrests at heart when it comes to safety, thats why we're fighting against staff cuts on stations and the closeure of ticket offices. It cant be no fun at night for a woman to walk into an empty station at night with no visible staff on duty. Ooh but dont worry, a cctv camera is recording everything that goes on so if there is an incident they can rewind and hope to identify the assailents...

Alex2306

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Feb 6, 2013 5:51 AM
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Why are the unions so quick to strike when a driver opens the doors wrong side then breaks safey regs and he is disciplined, if the unions take safety so much to heart?
And the unions can be pretty perdantic, for example the signalling inductive loop cable on the Jubilee Line is a slip hazard in the rain. Come on I never put the drivers down as mamby pamby. That like saying I can't walk on the pavement when it rains so I want non slip pavements every where.

go_2

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Feb 6, 2013 6:26 AM
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Bill - I can't remember the last time I saw staff at a tube station late at night, but it certainly must be more than 10-15 years ago. At least we now have cameras there, which is an improvement. (And didn't the unions oppose those, too?)

billthehammer

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Feb 7, 2013 3:40 AM
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You must be blinkered go_2. I regulary do the last runners and there is always staff about. As for the cctv it's for the staffs benifit as well as the public, I've no knowledge of the unions ever opposing them... But as I said, cameras should not replace staff...

Alex2306

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Feb 7, 2013 5:04 AM
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Funny how the drivers were happy for all the guards to go.
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