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myself and a friend are emigrating to austrailia in decemeber this year but we are unsure as to where to settle down,
i heard great reviews about both cities but bad reviews about both aswel, sydney being expensive and melbourne being a bit rough :-/
i also heard sydney people are very rude compared to melbournians :-P
and which city has more to offer?
all comments and advice apreciated
thanks
No fruit picking in Melbourne. It's a city. Not too much fruit grown. But around Melbourne and Victoria you may find some. Not my area of expertise though.
Fruit picking? March/April is the grape harvest time in the Hunter Valley, about 2 hours north of Sydney. Like #3 though, I'm also not an expert on fruit picking. I just like to drink the end product ...
But if you are done all the touristy stuff, by Jan, mid Jan, if you go up into the River Murray, you should be able to do work as the fruits get riper.
Now its end of Jan, a lof of the fruits in metro Adelaide, (people's backyard) are just now starting to ripen, and is now edible.
Maybe try bar work for the month of Dec/Jan in metro or Melbourne CBD, and then go up in the countryside last week of Jan/end of Jan and job hunt.
I have done orange mandarin picking in the riverland region of South Aust. Hard work, but its ok, if you can turn your brain to pick mode, (and not wear a watch during the picking work day).
If I won lotto, it would be Sydney, it has the life, ...
Right now, I am a plodder in sleepy dour old boring nanny state Adelaide, (South Aust), just because its cheap, and I pay miniscule rent.
If you are happy to travel, even jumping over the border of SA/Vic & NSW River Murray region to pick fruit where its needed, will be financially rewarding.
Most would regard Melbourne as having a better public transport system since it adds trams to the mix but neither places have brilliant PT.
Most would argue that Melbourne has more of a cafe, festival and sports events (F1, tennis open, Grand Final, Boxing Day test) but Sydney has the Mardi Gras, a thriving rugby league community and some great cafes in places like Newtown.
Most would say traffic is worse in Sydney but check out the Westgate bridge peak hour tailback.
Most would say Bondi and Manly Beach and the harbour are more beautiful spots than Melbourne has to offer but Melbourne's Port Philip Bay and even nowadays the Yarra have their charms.
Most would say Melbourne is more of a cultural haven than Sydney but Sydney has the Opera House and some great galleries.
Having said that, I'd opt for Melbourne but I acknowledge that I'm a Melbourne boy with only weekends of experience in Sydney. I love the Melbourne cafes, the Victorian era buildings, the trams, the grid system in the CBD, the river, the parks, the sports district, areas like St Kilda, Carlton, Brunswick, Fitzroy, North Melbourne and Northcote and etc etc.
Whereas Melbourne has alledgedly bad weather and a more european type culture, that's just not found elsewhere in aus, but not nearly as many terrorists and gun crime as sydney..
Oh and truth is Sydney has a higher rainfall aswell as gun crime rate, and Melbourne gets more 30 degreeC + 'beach' days then Sydney , aswell as fewer bikie shootouts
And the 'gun crime' is limited to a few gang members shooting each other in the outer suburbs where tourists rarely venture - just in case any overseas visitors are reading this and decide to change their plans.
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Sydney or Melbourne?
Hi all :Dmyself and a friend are emigrating to austrailia in decemeber this year but we are unsure as to where to settle down,
i heard great reviews about both cities but bad reviews about both aswel, sydney being expensive and melbourne being a bit rough :-/
i also heard sydney people are very rude compared to melbournians :-P
and which city has more to offer?
all comments and advice apreciated
thanks
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Yeah WHV.. And we would be doing the fruit picking can we not do that in Melbourne?3
Melbourne being rough? First I've heard that said! It's no more or less dangerous than Sydney when it comes to crime. Lived here most of my life, never been assaulted, mugged, robbed, burgled or had any crime committed against my person or property.No fruit picking in Melbourne. It's a city. Not too much fruit grown. But around Melbourne and Victoria you may find some. Not my area of expertise though.
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Having lived a good portion of my life in Sydney I'd have to say that Melbourne would be my pick as well. Sydneysiders can tend to be a bit rude, and the city itself is very in your face. I would also say it's probably more dangerous than Melbourne, as far as assaults etc go.Fruit picking? March/April is the grape harvest time in the Hunter Valley, about 2 hours north of Sydney. Like #3 though, I'm also not an expert on fruit picking. I just like to drink the end product ...
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You are not 'emigrating' - that implies staying here permanently. And no, you can't pick fruit in our large cities, any more than you can do it in London. If you want to work in the city you are probably looking at office work, bar, restaurant or hotel work. Fruit picking requires you to leave the city and head to more rural areas.10
December is a bit early.But if you are done all the touristy stuff, by Jan, mid Jan, if you go up into the River Murray, you should be able to do work as the fruits get riper.
Now its end of Jan, a lof of the fruits in metro Adelaide, (people's backyard) are just now starting to ripen, and is now edible.
Maybe try bar work for the month of Dec/Jan in metro or Melbourne CBD, and then go up in the countryside last week of Jan/end of Jan and job hunt.
I have done orange mandarin picking in the riverland region of South Aust. Hard work, but its ok, if you can turn your brain to pick mode, (and not wear a watch during the picking work day).
If I won lotto, it would be Sydney, it has the life, ...
Right now, I am a plodder in sleepy dour old boring nanny state Adelaide, (South Aust), just because its cheap, and I pay miniscule rent.
If you are happy to travel, even jumping over the border of SA/Vic & NSW River Murray region to pick fruit where its needed, will be financially rewarding.
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There are cliches and generalisations about both places and none of it is going to be 100% accurate.Most would regard Melbourne as having a better public transport system since it adds trams to the mix but neither places have brilliant PT.
Most would argue that Melbourne has more of a cafe, festival and sports events (F1, tennis open, Grand Final, Boxing Day test) but Sydney has the Mardi Gras, a thriving rugby league community and some great cafes in places like Newtown.
Most would say traffic is worse in Sydney but check out the Westgate bridge peak hour tailback.
Most would say Bondi and Manly Beach and the harbour are more beautiful spots than Melbourne has to offer but Melbourne's Port Philip Bay and even nowadays the Yarra have their charms.
Most would say Melbourne is more of a cultural haven than Sydney but Sydney has the Opera House and some great galleries.
Having said that, I'd opt for Melbourne but I acknowledge that I'm a Melbourne boy with only weekends of experience in Sydney. I love the Melbourne cafes, the Victorian era buildings, the trams, the grid system in the CBD, the river, the parks, the sports district, areas like St Kilda, Carlton, Brunswick, Fitzroy, North Melbourne and Northcote and etc etc.
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Most would say Sydney has the harbour, which is nice on a sunny day, and lots of terrorists and gun crime- even police stations get shot at now and again..Whereas Melbourne has alledgedly bad weather and a more european type culture, that's just not found elsewhere in aus, but not nearly as many terrorists and gun crime as sydney..
Oh and truth is Sydney has a higher rainfall aswell as gun crime rate, and Melbourne gets more 30 degreeC + 'beach' days then Sydney , aswell as fewer bikie shootouts
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Lots of terrorists????? Wow, since when? I must have missed that story in the Telegraph.And the 'gun crime' is limited to a few gang members shooting each other in the outer suburbs where tourists rarely venture - just in case any overseas visitors are reading this and decide to change their plans.
