Tsum Valley: Number of Days Questions
Replies: 9 - Last Post: Jan 26, 2013 12:36 AM Last Post By: WILLEMSPIE
Jan 22, 2013 8:15 AM
Tsum Valley: Number of Days QuestionsGreeting,
I am heading to do Nepal in a few weeks to do some trekking. While this will be my third trip, I am meeting a friend at the end of March for a short 8 day trek. I will be setting up the permits and guides in KTM.
I am hoping to go to the TSUM Valley and am winding about the number of days we have. My question is, will 8 days be enough time to go up the valley and return? Or, would another trek be easier and not rushed.
This is my best guess on a trip, but am looking for advice…
Ktm to Soti Khola (Some reports are the trails start in Arughat, but I think I can get a jeep up to Soti Khola)
Soti Khola to Phillim in 2 days (is this too fast?)
Tsum Valley for 2/3 days (staying in the middle like Dumje or Chhokangparo and taking days trips to GumpaLungdang and Mo Gumpa)
Trek out to Soti Khola in 2 days.
I also wonder about the need for porters and a guide. I think it might be nicer to camp up the valley and not home stay in unknown conditions (like noisy and smoky little rooms, with yak)…I could be wrong.
The other options include Langtang Valley or the Dunche/Gosainkund/Helambu route.
Jan 22, 2013 2:57 PM
We have found that seven days inside the Tsum Valley is never enough, so it looks pretty rushed to me even though you could manage it. See recent (Nov 2017) notes from there http://fedup.com.au/images/stories/nepal/ManasluTsumValleyTrek.pdf
Camping is slower and less contact with locals.
Jan 22, 2013 4:32 PM
2Thanks for getting back to me. I have been reading your write-up with great interest. It is a excellent resource.
I thought it was too rushed. The last thing I want to do is have something delay the trip (which will happen) and cause more issues. It would be unfortunate to not get to enjoy the trek.
I have enough time in Nepal prior to meeting my friend that I think i can do all of the tsum valley and the manaslu circuit. I was hoping to bring them into a very neat place. I guess we will go elsewhere together.
I still have some questions about the trek:
I am still wondering if there is a reliable jeep into Soti Khola?
If I have a guide and porter for myself, do I need another person to trek with? Are there still # of person limit within the restricted area?
I am a little confused about 'solo' trekking and if it is a bad idea or 'illegal' now? Last time I was in Nepal was 1996, things were different.
Jan 22, 2013 4:45 PM
Yes, two trekkers plus a licensed guide are required to get the restricted area permit.
There is a limit on the number of trekkers, I don't know the number, but I don't think it has been reached even though Manaslu is getting more popular (in part due to road building on the AC). Ihave not seen any reports of people denied a permit for that reason.
Solo trekking is not banned. TAAN have proposed this and the governemnt have put the decision on hold.
Jan 23, 2013 5:03 AM
Jan 23, 2013 8:15 AM
5Well, unfortunately it will be too rushed. No matter how I change the days...the last the I desire it to run up and down the trail and not enjoy the culture and scenery.
It seems this is more realistic:
Ktm to Arughat ( 1day)
Arughat to Phillim (3 to 4 days)
Phillim up Tsum exploring (4 to 5 days)
Phillim to Arughat (3 days)
Arughat to Ktm (1 day)
It seems to go up the valley and back and not complete the circuit--and not feel like running--one needs around 12 to 14 days.
Thanks for the knowledge...
Jan 24, 2013 5:39 AM
Jan 25, 2013 8:08 AM
7I was looking at google earth and the valley seems more of an open flood plain... and perhaps the trail is not that steep from Arughat to Phillim. It seems there are ups and downs...but no 1200m days untill after Phillim?
I am hoping to find a partner and do this prior to meeting my friend. I have 30 day prior to her arriving KTM>
Upon reflection...perhaps going up Arughat>>Phillim>>Chulmling>>LungDang Gompa>>explore>>Phillim>>Arughat.
I know that there should be more time up in Tsum, but, we will do what we can.
Jan 25, 2013 7:29 PM
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