Train Travel in the Netherlands, etc
Replies: 21 - Last Post: Feb 1, 2013 2:40 AM Last Post By: arizona
Jan 7, 2013 6:48 PM
Train Travel in the Netherlands, etcHi Guys...sorry to sound like a total 'newbie' around here (mind you, in another way - aren't we all!), but I'm off to the Netherlands again next week after a long absence and want to get a little help with my planning...I'm under time pressure so that's the reason I'm asking some basic questions...
Looks like I'll have to travel from Eindhoven to Amsterdam on Sunday (13th January) and the price on http://9292.nl
is coming up at €17.90 which looks surprisingly low to me...is this the price across the counter or only with the 'public transport chip card' as it's coming up on my reply?...if so, what's the cheapest way for a one-off traveller like myself to travel this route?...and does it make any difference if I delay my journey til Monday?...
Likewise, I have to travel from Amsterdam to Maastricht on Tuesday and the price is coming up at a very reasonable €23.80...so, once again, is this available to me, and, if not, what's the best way for me to do this paying cash at the station?...or is there any other ticket I can buy, to get me around the country for 48-72 hours, as cheaply as possible...
In Amsterdam, I'll have to visit the suburbs on the metro...any advice on the best way to do this?...looks like I'll be on the Green Line (#53) as far as Dieman Zuid and back...is there a day pass I can use, for example?...or other card or ticket?...and what time is the last tram back from Dieman Zuid to the city, approximately, does anyone know?...
I'd normally have all this researched to death, by now, but my plans have changed at the last minute and a relatively straightforward trip has got a little complicated...))
Jan 7, 2013 11:07 PM
The prices it's quoting you are full fare walk up prices for one way tickets. Cross reference against http://www.ns.nl if you like. There are options to further reduce your ticket price but it would depend how often you intend to use the trains. If this is a one off for the whole of 2013 and you don't anticipate using Dutch trains further, don't worry about it. If you do, one of the products listed here might be worthy of consideration - http://www.ns.nl/reizigers/producten.
As for Amsterdam, it depends where you are starting from ref how to get to Dieman Zuid. Assuming it's centraal station, then yes it's the 53 metro line that you've already identified. The last metro back from Diemen-Zuid on Sundays and Mondays is at 00:07 - you can find the timetable at http://en.gvb.nl/reisinformatie/Pages/vertrektijden.aspx. If you intend to do several trips on public transport in one day, a one day travel pass OV chipkart may be the way forward; they're 7.50 EUR each. Refer to http://en.gvb.nl/ovinmamsterdam/Pages/bestdeal.aspx for info on them.
Jan 7, 2013 11:38 PM
Jan 8, 2013 1:36 AM
Adding: You can also train Diemen Zuid. Last train from Diemen Zuid to Amsterdam Centraal leaves at 01:16 a.m. (But the 00:46 ride will timewise be much 'shorter'!)
Nearby station Duivendrecht 01:19) will make it a direct ride.
Handy tool to find all transport possibilities (i.e. train, subway and bus) is http://maps.google.nl it will provides schedules and links to transport companies.
To Maastricht, it's a si ngle fare you refer too. If you need a return it's worthwhile to have a look at this:
a dayticket for € 18,--
But you'll have to order it online and requires an iDeal payment through a Dutch bank account.
Jan 8, 2013 2:21 AM
4Edit #3: Better link for that day ticket - apparently different from what I intended - is: http://www.spoordeelwinkel.nl/dagje-uit
Jan 8, 2013 12:32 PM
Jan 8, 2013 4:40 PM
6Thanks for the replies, guys...as it happens, I got a bit of work done today and as a result, looks likeI won't be visiting Maastricht, after all...so it looks like I may just travel from Eindhoven to Amsterdam and then back a few days later...or travel to Utrecht for a night and then return to Eindhoven...but if I can just 'rock up' and buy tickets for the kind of prices I quoted above, then I have no real worries...Dutch train travel seems to be far more reasonably priced than its Deutsche Bahn counterpart?...
Arie, that's good info that will give me more flexibility...thank you for that...
Bad luck, Raki, but that's where we seem to be at, here now on TT, unfortunately...
Last question...if I just go from Eindhoven to Amsterdam on, say, Sunday, and then return on Wednesday, is there a cheaper return I can get?...
Jan 8, 2013 11:35 PM
7jack, man in seat61 just published an interesting comparison - and though I object to details, the result indeed isn't flattering for DB...
Jan 9, 2013 1:18 AM
8Last question...if I just go from Eindhoven to Amsterdam on, say, Sunday, and then return on Wednesday, is there a cheaper return I can get?
Jack, no there isn't. Even a return trip at the same day will be double the single fare.
BTW. Probably you're flying with a big Ireland based company, do they allow to take liquids in the hand luggage in the mean time, I conclude from this picture?? (hoping the link works)
Jan 9, 2013 8:52 PM
9Hi Arie...that link didn't come out...censored probably!...
Nautiker...the early deals and Laender-Tickets with DB are good value...the difficulty is usually just arriving on the day...
The 'old place' seems to be on its knees, right now...brought down by incompetence...these are my valedictory posts...I have more to be doing with my life...
Jan 9, 2013 11:05 PM
Jan 10, 2013 12:53 AM
11Good morning guys,
about that link ???
New try: http://krant.volkskrant.nl/?paper=22447&zone=NL&ticket=ST-456537-I5qUR3VZXeJk4icamCH4-caps.volkskrant.nl#/paper
But from a subscription site.
It was a (IMO) nice drawing showing a row of embarking passengers with jerrycans in their hand and trying to fit it between the bars to measure, asssuming to be fuel in those jerricans.
Based on http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2205314/Ryanair-courting-disaster-flying-planes-near-fuel-tanks-cut-costs.html
Jan 10, 2013 9:50 PM
Jan 11, 2013 12:26 AM
Jan 20, 2013 4:27 PM
14Hi guys, back now so I'll bite my lip and post an update...))
For posterity, here are the transport charges that I paid...
Weert -Eindhoven - €11.10 return.
Eindhoven - Den Bosch - €6.40
Den Bosch - Amsterdam Centraal - €14.60
Amsterdam Amstel - Utrecht €6.10
Utrecht - Eindhoven - €13.70
(Some of these include 50c fee for buying from office rather than machine)
Amsterdam 24 hour travel card - €7.50
Eindhoven Airport Bus €3.50 (#401,every 9 minutes)
There again, what has posterity ever done for us????
Arie, thanks for the very helpful Dieman train info...I ended up on the 00.46 which did the trick perfectly...
Nautiker, I should probably have known better then to try and pull the wool over the eyes of a TT veteran...but with the current state of things, what difference does it make...but the gig went great and booked straight again for next year...
Another question...I spent in total 51.90 on mainline trains or €59.40 including the A'dam travel card...at what point does the OV-chipcard make sense?...or can I as a visitor buy one?...
(1 star Hotel)
From US$79.70 per night
(4 star Hotel)
From US$185.38 per night
(5 star Hotel)
From US$160.32 per night