Welcome back to Thorn Tree
Replies: 1,407 - Last Post: Mar 22, 2013 7:37 AM Last Post By: Zabba
Jan 15, 2013 8:01 AM
Is there a South America branch? I don't see it on the list/pull down menu.
All my previous posts have been deleted and I was in touch with people re. travel buddies for next month. Is this section now gone?
Jan 15, 2013 8:07 AM
Jan 15, 2013 8:18 AM
617As a poster with over 2,000 posts presumably my posts should be considered unreliable (ho,ho), nonetheless.
I am a cyclist. I was never aware of any suspect posts on the 'on your bike' forum, so please can we have that branch back. References to padded underwear and sitting on 6 inches of leather for hours on end are all uterrly harmless - honest!
I am just about to go to Cuba for the first time (on my bike), please can we have the Cuba branch back. As a cyclist I have particular problems, eg I need accom in Habana where I can store my bike. I was relying on the TT to answer that and other bike touring specific questions.
Like many others who have posted here, I have lots of info book-marked on the TT and its absence is a pain.
The unceremonious, unilateral and instant pulling of the TT has taught me 2 things:
one - I relied a lot on the TT;
two - not to rely on the TT or LP in the future.
As a Brit I love the BBC, and as a traveller I have always had great affection for the LP (my first was a yellow SE Asia on a Shoestring). This callous treatment of loyal users, many like me who try to give as much as they take, has severly undermined my faith in the LP organisation and this site in particular.
Please hurry up and get it back to how it was.
Jan 15, 2013 8:22 AM
618#607 I am also leaving for Africa next month, and it's good to hear that this branch will be back very soon. However, I really do hope that they haven't deleted all the old posts which were very useful.
Jan 15, 2013 8:34 AM
Jan 15, 2013 8:43 AM
620I'd just like to register my sadness at the loss of much of the TT community. I've been using the TT since somewhere around 1998 and have met many people from different branches. I have given and received much good travel advice. I understand LP is a business and that it owns the forums. But that doesn't mean I won't miss the old Tree. I also miss the old LP guidebooks, but I still have a couple of solid shelves of the classics that I'll never throw out.
Jan 15, 2013 8:57 AM
621I would like to UN-nominate it, Mark and Chris.
Many years ago, in certain countries which only put one candidate up for election, that candidate still had to get 50% of the votes in order to take his/her seat.
I don't think this thread would get 50% of the votes - as much for what's lacking as what's there.
Jan 15, 2013 9:36 AM
622Kingcnut, I agree that the Thorn Tree (and especially a YC) had some issues that needed to be dealt with. But why shut the board down without any warning whatsoever? If people had been given some advance notice that the board was going to be closed for a while, folks who were in the process of planning trips or already on the road could have copied and saved the threads and PMs that was important to them; they wouldn't have lost access to information they needed. Likewise, why not just announce that YC is going to be permanently closed effective on Date X? Then people who loved that branch would have had some time to work out an alternate place to meet, and folks like Leela3000 could have saved the old threads that were of sentimental importance to them.
I have no problem with the BBC deciding to make changes. I have a big problem with the way they went about it.
Jan 15, 2013 10:01 AM
Has TT said that "trolls and spammers" are the reason the whole thing was down for two weeks and many branches are still not up? I thought it was because of bad language on YC?
Jan 15, 2013 10:17 AM
624I agree with the last post (although it probably won't be the last post by the lonely planet cops have analysed this message and cleared it).. and i can't see the last post on this screen that i am now typing on and have forgotten what number it was and the author's name... so... errr... but the point is, the BBC can do what they want to the message board to update it / make it more fit for purpose, but the way this was done with no warning over a busy travel period showed how out of touch they are with the core readership of LP. i was in a very remote part of madagascar over christmas and needed some advice / help.. when i found an internet connection (obviously very slow) it was a real blow to find TT suddenly gone - as every google took about 5 minutes to process, finding an alternative there and then was impossible. i suspect the moderators etc that work on this site are probably as disillusioned by what has happened as we are (demonstrated by some of the comments in the press immediately afterwards) - and they probably realise it will mark the slow death of thorn tree. it's not them to blame though.
all good things come to an end. the beauty of the internet means that the gap will be filled... the only loser in the long run is lonely planet.
Jan 15, 2013 10:38 AM
Jan 15, 2013 11:11 AM
Jan 15, 2013 12:05 PM
627Where the heck is the Mexico branch??? The "holidays" are way over.
Jan 15, 2013 12:57 PM
Jan 15, 2013 1:05 PM
629If someone stops running a free party coz some of the guests couldn't behave, don't blame the former host, blame the vandals.
The free party was at the BBC, they harboured and nurtured the wrong people for years and now "as it happens", they are holier than thou cleaning up like a white tornado, so "how's about that then".
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