WOMEN BEWARE TAXI DRIVERS
Replies: 23 - Last Post: Dec 11, 2012 2:20 AM Last Post By: catw
Dec 9, 2012 2:31 PM
15And you Fear are a wannabe bully. This from the Guardian.
"A Coptic Bishop in Egypt infuriated many Christian women in the country after saying on May 18 that they should dress more modestly, “like their Muslim sisters” and follow their example, the Guardian reported earlier this week.
“The comments were seemingly made in light of the fact that a vast majority of Muslim women in Egypt are now veiled, while Coptic women have recently said they are increasingly being insulted in society for not covering their hair, as per typical Muslim practice.
“Women, Muslim and Christian, who do not cover their hair or wear mid-sleeved clothing are met with insults, spitting and in some cases physical abuse,” the newspaper reported.
One Coptic woman told the British newspaper that she, along with Muslim women who do not cover their hair, get yelled at by men passing by, telling her “just you wait, those who will cover you up and make you stay at home are coming and then there will be no more of this lewdness.”
Christian women are increasingly being intimidated into wearing the veil. That's a fact.
Dec 10, 2012 2:59 AM
16I am a woman myself and I say it again: the post is full of paranoia. Read it again - nothing happens at all, except the traveller feels uncomfortable and the taxi driver says he has no change.
To write that women should avoid taking taxis alone in Cairo and that they should wear a Niqab (full face veil) because one traveller felt uncomfortable and was told by one taxi driver that he had no change is ridiculous. There are countless expatriates living in Cairo, many of them women, and we all ride in taxis every day. (Very few expats have private cars since taxis are cheap and widely available).
As I wrote, you occasionallty get harassed by a taxi driver, some have wild fantasies about Western women and will be a little too insistent un their questions or, in very rare occasion, will try to rub your knee or arm. It's a hassle, it's unacceptable, but it's no reason to say you're in danger and need to wear a face veil!
I mean... would the traveller tell ladies being harassed by taxi drivers in london to wear a face veil?
Dec 10, 2012 3:01 AM
Dec 10, 2012 3:11 AM
18As for wearing the hijab, it's a no-no. To write that "people cannot know whether you're a Muslim or not anyway" is ridiculous. If you're a Westerner they assume you're a Christian, and they will think that you're mocking Islam, which is not a good thing. There are indeed a few Western women who wear the Hijab in Cairo but they are actual Muslims and you can tell because they know how to wear it and you don't - it immediately shows if you know how to wear one or not.
The only rule for a Western woman is to dress conservatively when on the street, exactly as Coptic Christian women do.
Dec 10, 2012 5:29 AM
Dec 10, 2012 5:50 AM
Dec 10, 2012 9:29 AM
21#18 says : " it seems like the only thing these same few people really care about (every day, day after day, regardless of verifiable news reports advising to the contrary) is to continue to convince as many people as possible to come and spend money,"
Verifiable news reports advising people not to come to Egypt? Traditions of the internet here require me to say: Link or they don't exist.
That's aside from the fact that actually existing, verifiable travel advice from various European foreign ministries continues to indicate that Egypt is a safe destination.
And besides, presumably people posting questions here are looking for answers from people who live or have recently visited here, not for news reports. If they were looking for news reports, they'd be on news websites.
So I can't help wondering what your motivation is in dissing people who are consistently providing factual information based on real experience and that is also consistent with the information officially provided by Western foreign ministries. I'm also mildly curious as to why you think you know better and we should all shut up. Presumably the people who post questions here would prefer if others with experience of Egypt did answer them, that's kind of the point of the board so it's rather odd that you object to it.
Dec 11, 2012 2:19 AM
22Why did the driver yelled when his passenger tried to roll down the window, telling her to roll it up because the aircon was on?
Taxi drivers work very hard, for a very low wage. They are usually reluctant to put the aircon on because it uses fuel, and fuel costs money. They will rarely put the aircon on, unless specifically asked to do so. However many drivers put it on when they have Western customers, as a courtesy. Of course they get pissed off if you open the window without asking then to stop the aircon first!
Dec 11, 2012 2:20 AM
23To sum it up: thousands of Westerners living in Cairo, half of them women, take taxis to commute in Cairo every day and we're all perfectly fine.
Yes, some taxi drivers (not all) will try to rip you off by pretending that they do not have change, so do take a lot of small bills with you.
Yes, some taxi drivers are a bit lousy and will flirt with Western women or even, in some very rare cases, try to touch your knee or arm (some might even - gasp! - pretend they're divorced when they're not). Just tell the guy to behave and he will stop in most cases; if not get out of the taxi, an easy task in such a congested city.
If you're a woman and don't feel too comfortable take a white taxi, they have a meter and a registered driver.
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