Mexico City - Violent Protests
Replies: 12 - Last Post: Dec 8, 2012 8:24 AM Last Post By: keithmur
Dec 1, 2012 2:00 PM
Mexico City - Violent ProtestsIn response to the inauguration of EPN, there have been some rather violent protests in a pretty large swath of Mexico City consisting of most of Reforma from el Ángel de la Independencia to Hidalgo, including the Plaza de la República area and Hidalgo around the Alameda Central (which may need to be redone again after today's activities) and Bellas Artes. There have also been violent manifestations in the San Lázaro area. Reportedly, several groups will be converging on the Zócalo. Anyone staying in the city would be well advised to seek out the latest information before heading to the aforementioned areas. Protests are likely to continue through the weekend.
Dec 1, 2012 6:13 PM
1I did see some of this gearing up over the last few days, folks camped out on the streets off of Reforma (with some pretty heavy police barricades). In the end it had pretty much no effect on any of the places above except for the brief period of protest; just spent a long afternoon in the center and there was basically nothing to be seen between the Zocalo and Reforma, just a normal, active day. The Alameda is, thankfully, unaffected.
Dec 2, 2012 1:11 PM
Dec 2, 2012 5:51 PM
3Just to get the teensiest political here and reveal my total lack of knowledge about politics in Mexico...
The news reports I found said that these were demonstrations against Nieto, the new president. So -- what are the party politics in Mexico? Is Nieto left, right or centre in the political sphere?
Dec 2, 2012 9:02 PM
4The protesters are the same group of anarchists who move from location in Mexico. They're domestic terrorists. The taking of office by Pena Nieto was just an opportunity for them to be violent once again and shouldn't be mistaken for broader issues. A good heads-up, though, to remain informed ... because these folks don't care whether innocents are harmed.
Dec 3, 2012 8:20 PM
5#3: Without wanting to offend, the political classifications you mention (left, right, center) are naive, at best, in most countries, and even more so in Mexico. If you want to know a little more about this controversy, you will have to do a little bit of reading about the PRI.
#4: While I agree that most of the rioters were probably anarchists, I think it is incorrect to speak of 'the protesters' as if they made up a homogeneous group. Most of the protesters were peaceful, and did nothing to circumvent the law. The rioters seem to have been mostly anarchists, but some socialists and other revolutionaries have joined with them to form a new 'urban guerilla' group that calls itself the Ejército Popular Magonista de Liberación Nacional (Popular Magonist Army of National Liberation), which announced its presence on Saturday. This group does not seem to be a significant threat, but tourists should be aware of the group's presence and tactics on days of political significance like this past Saturday.
Dec 4, 2012 7:17 AM
Dec 4, 2012 4:22 PM
Dec 4, 2012 4:38 PM
8Well... I admit that it is quite complicated. If THIS is accurate, it is very interesting.
Dec 4, 2012 6:29 PM
9the political classifications you mention (left, right, center) are naive, at best, in most countries, and even more so in Mexico
To be far, this isn't exactly true; the "left / right" political spectrum is a constant yardstick for measuring Mexican politics as well, and they use it quite frequently – you'll find reference to this in the paper on any given day. OTOH there are more nuances than in a place like the US with a 2-party system, but the basic gist of it is that the PRI positioned itself as a centrist option(though definitely more center-right) to the the left/center-left PDR – who they just formed an alliance with, and the more right-wing PAN who's been in office for the last 12 years. Though there are variations, these are the three main parties and those are their perceived places on the spectrum, even if their particular social/economic positions aren't always as clear-cut.
Dec 4, 2012 7:21 PM
10My comment was based on my ontological position regarding the left-right axis. If #3 was looking for an idea of what the newspapers say about partisan politics in Mexico, #9 has provided an adequate idea. The PRI's position, however, is complicated by the large scope of the party, as well as its history. For example, I know of plenty of Fidel-loving 'leftists' who are still loyal to and belong to more socialist-inclined factions of the PRI even though most of the neoliberal policies that have been instituted were initiated under PRI governments.
Dec 4, 2012 9:01 PM
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