Animal Cruelty in Seville.
Replies: 35 - Last Post: Dec 11, 2012 9:47 AM Last Post By: macmaghnusa
Nov 29, 2012 4:00 AM
Animal Cruelty in Seville.Hey all!
I was recently in Spain, studying there for 3 months in Valencia and then travelling around Andalusia; and one thing that I was extremely unhappy about was the state of the carriage horses- and all the tourists merrily riding around oblivious to how malnourished and unhappy some of the horses were. I have been riding for 12 years, and I can safely say that three of the horses I saw, one in Valencia and two in Seville, were close to being the thinnest I have seen horses.
I have written a letter of complaint to ASANDA, but I have yet to hear a response, so does anyone know what else I can do to report the animal cruelty? I have photos of one of the horses as well, for anyone who wants to see.
Nov 29, 2012 4:11 AM
1Welcome to the real world, kid.
I don't condone it but what you see as cruelty (and you highlight an incredibly minor example) is the reality throughout most of the planet, where people think about their own problems in life and animals are a tool to help them.
As you pass through your life you will see really horrific examples.
Nov 29, 2012 4:17 AM
Nov 29, 2012 4:54 AM
Nov 29, 2012 5:05 AM
4Agree with Wilco...there are much worse things out there.
Still....there is no reason why people working in tourism (and presumably licensed by the local council) should be allowed to get away with mistreating their animals.This is not a third world country....Spain should have the resources and organisation to ensure these animals are treated in the correct way.
Perhaps if tourists refused to do these rides,things would change?
Nov 29, 2012 5:05 AM
Nov 29, 2012 5:09 AM
Your sentiments are laudable but have you seen how dogs are treated in hundreds of thousands of Spanish holiday homes? Sometimes the 3rd World mentality is very close to home in Spain.
Nov 29, 2012 5:12 AM
7Yes..but the authorities can't realistically check hundreds of thousands of homes.
They can check 20 or 30 carriages though.
I know,because we had the same problem in Palermo...now there is an official whose job is to deal with exactly this type of problem.The situation has improved a lot....the horses are not crapping all over the streets now,and they are being fed properly.
If this doesn't happen the carriage driver loses his license.
Nov 29, 2012 5:22 AM
Nov 29, 2012 5:25 AM
Nov 29, 2012 5:31 AM
10I didn't offer to take the horse's place, but I did try to speak to the carriage driver. And yes I am very well aware of the bull-fighting in Spain; while I was in Valencia I tried to get involved in student movements to ban the tradition from Valencia. But right now trying to help these poor horses is the only thing I can do from where I live, and I created this thread to see if anyone else could help, or was interested in helping make the lives better of these poor creatures. No creature deserves to be to dreadfully malnourished and work such long hours, its negligence and cruelty! So if I can do something to help these horses, I will. Its my small part of trying to make this world a less cruel place for animals.
Nov 29, 2012 5:39 AM
11Save the horses! Sod the children!
Sorry, but I have spent too long in Africa.
Nov 29, 2012 5:49 AM
12Dave, we come from Africa, have seen a lot there, and still don't appreciate the cynicism when it comes to cruelty to any sentient beings. I know full well there is a lot of suffering out there, and I try to help whenever I can, as I am trying now, by highlighting what I saw. If suffering no longer moves you, that's your concern, but it still gets to me.
Nov 29, 2012 5:57 AM
Nov 29, 2012 6:09 AM
14It's about responsible tourism - tourists should not participate in activities where animals are mistreated. But oviously, the responsibility lies with the individual then.
In Spain, animal rights are very low on the politician's list - except when they can politically abuse it of course like the bullfights in Cataluyna !
OP - I do advise you not to travel to developing countries though ! It's a whole different thing there.
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