Yangon airways - safe and reliable?
Replies: 13 - Last Post: Dec 5, 2012 12:39 AM Last Post By: findjezhere
Nov 27, 2012 1:15 AM
Yangon airways - safe and reliable?Hi
We will be in Myanmar in January and travelling by air from Yangon - Bagan - Heho - Mandalay.
The local agent has booked us on Yangon airways for the three legs.
Just wondering of views on their safety and reliability compared to other Myanmar airlines.
Nov 27, 2012 2:05 AM
1I don't worry too much about the safety of third-world airlines. They typically don't own their planes; instead they lease them from huge lessors like GE, who insist on good maintenance and trained crews to make sure they get their shiny planes back in good condition.
Reliability? Well, no airline in Burma is notably reliable in terms of schedule, but Yangon Airway (a) only has two airplanes (and so is particularly subject to disruption) and (b) is allegedly a joint venture between the government carrier Myanma Air and the United Wa State Army, a separatist militia/narcotrafficking gang. Seriously. They were shut down for a while because the government officially disapproves of heroin smuggling, but now Yangon Airways back flying the friendly skies.
Nov 27, 2012 2:28 AM
Nov 27, 2012 2:40 AM
3United Wa State Army is not a "drugtrafficking gang" though. They have made a few efforts to destroy poppy fields and encourage farmers to look for other sources of income. They even relocated farmers living close to poppy fields and their ban against poppy cultivation (2005) has shown some success too. No doubt a big part of their government is involved with drug trafficking and production but the same goes for the central government and the Tatmadaw. Yet nobody would call Thein Sein and his "democractic" friends a gang of drug dealers even though Thein Sein´s close relations to the drug trade particulary the Wa State drug trade is not a secret.
Nov 27, 2012 3:33 AM
4What do you mean by " Thein Sein's close relations " to drug trade? Is it because you read an article in " The Economist " suggesting so a while ago ? Just because he served in Triangle Military Command when he was in armed force, it doesn't mean that he had a close relationship with those drug lords.
How about accusing every soldier who have been to Afghanistan that they involved in opium trade because they have been there? If you have strong evidences or you know someone who has them that Thein Sein has close relationships with these drug lords or he has benefited from drug trade somehow, please enlighten the world.
Do us, Kachins, a favor and take our flag off your avatar if you are going to keep talking those non senses like an idiot.
Nov 27, 2012 5:57 AM
5Back to Op
I have flown probably 50 sectors using most of the airlines in Myanmar (except MA) and they are much of a muchness, Luckily all flights have been fine and all the airlines fly recycled ATR,s and all are recertified by the Manufacturer annually.Most are 20+ years old but well within their hours so are in mid life (I believe many 747 still flying with major airlines are older)
Only minor prob we had with Yangon Air was a broken aircon which caused a decamp and an hour delay at Mingaldon some 10 years ago.
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Nov 27, 2012 8:00 AM
6just fly or if not grab a bus they break down more often than the aircraft.
as for thein sein Burmese Govt were noted for bringing Khun sar out of the cold and also Americas CIA were also supplying arms to rebel forces in mid 80s and 90's, but were then also turning a blind eye to heroin exportation, as decided rather than give them arms it was cheaper to allow the rebels to pay for the arms with drugs money. US representative in Golden Triangle resigned over it at time but was kept quiet by secrets act. However he made it pretty clear the reason for his resignation as American Policy in the region. problem is one mans propaganda is anothers fact.
"Cynicism is the idealists last refuge"
Nov 27, 2012 8:21 AM
7It may calm your nerves to know that Air Yangon's official motto is "You're safe with us"
Nov 28, 2012 7:16 AM
Dec 2, 2012 7:37 AM
9Here's a good website for checking stats on safety.
According to the database for Myanmar there have been 4 incidents in the last 10 years and 0 fatalities.
Dec 2, 2012 9:37 AM
So you say Thein Sein has not been involved in the drug trade when he was a regional commander in Shan State? Sources? Or do you just say: "no hasnt happened" without backing up your statement? I can back up my statement, as you might know there are reports about his ties to the drug trade.
Read the Trouser People by Andrew Marshall for a start.
Kachinland, which you might also know, wrote this about Thein Sein and his relations to the drug trade in Shan State:
"One other point about Burma’s president, he was for a time the Triangle commander, which means he was in charge of part of the Shan State. The Shan State is one of the world’s leading heroin production centers in the world as well as a major source for methamphetamines for Asia. Thein Sein had close relations with some of the drug trafficking groups and undoubtedly profited personally from those relationships. In his book The Trouser People Andrew Marshall describes a visit to an area controlled by Lin Mingxian, one of Thein Sein’s drug trafficking associates."
Dec 2, 2012 9:44 AM
11There were also reports at the time as to CIA's involvement in allowing the drug barons to export the Heroin through Thailand so they didn't have to supply them weapons as they now could pay for them.AlsoGovt ministers in Thailand have been noted for theri own involvement and as for Khun Sar didnt he start up Leo express bus company for his retirement in Yangon ? I believe he died a couple of years ago
They grow nice tea there now in Mae salong lol
Dec 2, 2012 10:35 AM
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