RTW Itinerary/Initial Planning/Budget
Replies: 11 - Last Post: Nov 21, 2012 2:52 AM Last Post By: SophieMelita
Nov 16, 2012 11:53 AM
RTW Itinerary/Initial Planning/BudgetHello,
My boyfriend and I are starting to save for a RTW in 2016. We are starting out of Toronto, Canada. We want to road trip around North America for two months, then want to travel internationally for 12 months.
Could you please let me know if the below expectations are realistic. Our itinerary is jammed packed with destinations. We have some must do's and an idea for budget. I think our trip may be a little overly ambitious but we're flexible to play with it.
We plan on getting married and then traveling. As we want to start a family when we get back, we're trying to pack in as much as possible before it's gets more difficult and expensive to travel.
We're a bit fussy when it comes to accommodations and really like to wine and dine. Neither of us are shoppers but we would like decorative home art from each continent we visit. I suspect that our budgeting is under what we will spend. This will be an extra long, extended honeymoon so we do want to splurge in a couple places and pamper each other.
Please let us know your thoughts.
West Coast of N America
New Zealand- South Island and North Island
Australia-Sydney, Adelaide, Melbourne, Cairns, Perth
Thailand – Bangkok, Chiang Mai, Phuket, an island (Ko Phi Phi, Ko Samui etc.),
Turkey – Istanbul, Calcium Coast
South Africa – Capetown, Kruger National Park, Victoria Falls (Zimbabawe)
Peru – Machu Picchu, Lima, Lake Titicaca, the Amazon, the Inca Trail,
Start August 2016 Finish October 2017
8 weeks road tripping across N/A
1 week Alaska
1 week Hawaii
4 weeks New Zealand
6 weeks Australia
2 weeks Japan
2 weeks China
11 weeks Thailand-Cambodia-Vietnam-Singapore-Indonesia,
13 weeks Turkey- Croatia- Greece- Spain- Morocco- Ireland- Munich- Budapest- Prague-Jordan- Syria- Egypt
6 weeks South Africa-Zimbabwe-Zanzibar
6 weeks Peru-Bolivia-Galapagos
Galapagos Tour, Luxury Capetown Hotel, Safari Africa, Machu Picchu Peru, Lake Titicaca, Grand Bazaar Turkey, Ho Chi Minh Vietnam, Angkor Wat Cambodia, Calcium Coast Turkey, Hawaii whale watching, Island hopping Croatia Thailand & Greece, Egypt Pyramid, Great Wall China, Terra Cotta Warriors China, LOTR filming New Zealand, Great Barrier Reef Australia, Rain Forest Australia
Approximately $3800 per month between the two of us
$25,000-$30,000 per person
Thank you for taking time to read this and help us with a life long dream.
Nov 16, 2012 12:36 PM
1Is this Canadian Dollars. If so does that equate to about £2400 per month? If I'm right then I don't think you'll have enough money to travel in the style that you like and do all the things that you are hoping to do. My husband and I have similar standards to you - reasonable accommodation and good food and wine. In 2003/2004 we travelled for 8 months and spent in the region of £1000 per week.....and that was nearly a decade ago. Things like safari, Inca Trail, Great Barrier Reef and Galapagos were pricey even then. Add in the lost earnings and our big trip was very costly indeed.
But I would also add that we don't regret for a second the time and the money we spent. We would do it all again if we could but nowadays we can only travel for a month or so at a time. Keep saving, don't overplan, go budget when you can and come home when you run out of money. All those things on your must-see list will still be there for future if you don't get to them this time round. Enjoy your trip.
Nov 16, 2012 2:39 PM
2Agree with #1, you've got an expensive trip lined up there and not enough time to ejoy all those destinations.
The Galahegos tour alone will cost you around $5,000 - $7,000 usd for you both. Flying in and out of south Africa is expensive as is Australia and New Zealand - about $10,000 usd for both of you fly in and out of all those places. New York? plan on $250 per day usd or more based on the travel style you describe. Japan - another expensive place to get to and from and expensive once you're there as well.
On the other hand, Hawaii is surprisingly cheap to fly to from the U.S. with prices less than $500 usd each and you should be able to travel inexpensively through southeast asia (once you've spent another $3,500 usd in airfare for both of you to get there).
Any reason you left the rest of western South America out of your plans (no Argentina, Colombia or Chile)?
Are you sure you want to go to Syria and Egypt nowadays? It may calm down by 2016, but maybe not and I'd be prepared to drop those places.
Nov 17, 2012 1:38 AM
3For me...too many destinations in too little time.Too much travelling between and not enough time doing things in.
Your budget is fine for low-end travel in those places (even Japan) but not if you want to do it in good hotels,nice restaurants AND do all the extras like Galapagos and safaris.
Your flight budget will be horrendous ;-)
Nov 18, 2012 11:17 AM
4You are falling into the classic trap of thinking that having kids is the end of your travelling days and you need to try and see everything now! Its not an enjoyable way to travel and especially when its over a long period. You can keep up with some hectic schedules for a little while okay but sooner or later you will get burnt out with the constant moving and time spent transiting instead of enjoying travel.
Your budget works outs to $62.00 PP/perday before flights,travel insurance, inoculatons and gear etc. so it will be fine for cheaper countries and not enough for australia/nz/usa/western europe. All in all it would probably balance out okay for a budget trip but certainly not enough to be to fussy with accommodations and wine and dine to often.
Nov 19, 2012 11:02 AM
5That sounds much more feasible. I feel quite envious.
Just out of curiosity why have you opted for Zimbabwe and Zanzibar after South Africa? Cape Town I can understand (and the food and wine really are superb). Zanzibar I liked very much. Its exotic and interesting but why have you not combined it with Tanzania or even Kenya while you are so near. Kenya in particular, I love. Its my second home and I've been once or twice every year since our first visit in 2006.
Nov 19, 2012 11:09 AM
4 Weeks New Zealand
6 Weeks Australia
1 Week Japan
2 Weeks China
12 weeks Thailand-Cambodia-Vietnam-Singapore-Indonesia
8 weeks South Africa-Zimbabwe-Zanzibar etc.
6 weeks Peru-Bolivia-Galapagos
Total Weeks: 39 weeks - just under 9 months
New Zealand $196 - will do hostels - $5,500
Australia $202 - will do hostels - $8,500
Japan $214 -$1,500
China $128 - $1,800
SE Asia $71- $6,000
Africa $27 - doing mostly tours so most day to day expenses covered $2,000
Cape town - $1,500 – luxury stays & wine and dine
South America $60 - also doing mostly tours $2,500
$2,700 for additional land travel.
Nov 19, 2012 11:13 AM
Thank you for your response.
With Africa, we're going to look at itineraries of tours. We want to do a lot whilst we're there. I don't think going back is an option for us - flights are expensive from Canada. I'll definitely take Tanzania into consideration when doing further research.
Nov 19, 2012 12:02 PM
Nov 20, 2012 9:31 AM
9I think I can only provide some insight on a few places you want to go to but if you're looking for information on SE Asia + Munich check out my blog at http://goingawesomeplaces.com.
I went to quite a few places this summer and I blogged about it in quite some detail with my own lessons learned and detailed itineraries.
Hope this helps with a snippet of your trip!
Nov 21, 2012 2:47 AM
10My partner and I ae planning a RTW for 2014. Coming from Australia though, I will say that while the 6 weeks will be sufficient to cover the towns you've selected in Australia, people often don't realise how far apart everything in Australia is and we really don't have a lot to offer in the way of cheap domestic transport that's also time efficient. Australia is not cheap for almost anyone else in the world unfortunately, so while our hostels will be a high standard and affordable in your daily budget, to fit in activities like going out to the Great Barrier Reef is likely to be up to about $450AUD for the both of you for a simple day trip. So you may need to have a few very cheap days just at the beach. Still totally doable, but just thought I'd mention it in case you weren't aware. Also, if you haven't done it I'd look into flights/trains/buses between the cities to make sure they fit within your budget. Flying out to Perth and back can be extremely costly. $1000 a week for two people including travel is not really always going to be luxurious, but there are still cheaper options. Am happy to help if you have any Aussie questions. :)
Good luck with the rest of your planning!
Nov 21, 2012 2:52 AM
11Oh sorry, I've just realized that you have a separate budget for transport and special excursions and also increased your Aus budget to $8500 for the 6 weeks. With that in mind you should do well :)
My only other tip for Australia (and I suppose every other country really) is don't think that only the capital cities are the places to visit. Road trips up the east coast of Australia (e.g. Melbourne all the way up to Cairns) are quite popular because of all there is to see and do.
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