Help with itinerary
Replies: 8 - Last Post: Nov 13, 2012 9:42 PM Last Post By: Aribo
Nov 13, 2012 9:22 AM
Help with itineraryHi guys,
I am an American expat currently residing in Khartoum. I was planning on visiting eastern Europe in May, but I've changed my mind. Instead, I will be going to Amsterdam, London and Barcelona (I have family and friends in all of those cities so accommodation is not a problem).
I would like to add 2 countries to my itinerary. Which countries should I add? Germany, France, Belgium?
I love nature, villages and historical monuments. I don't care about nightlife or those touristy places.
Also, how do I go about planning the whole thing? I want to be as frugal as possible. lol
I will be flying from Khartoum using Egyptair.
Nov 13, 2012 9:37 AM
Nov 13, 2012 9:42 AM
Nov 13, 2012 9:51 AM
3Thank you for the quick replies. My trip will be 40 days long.
To be honest with you, this is the first time I will be traveling to Europe (other than southern Spain), so I was hoping you would guide me. :)
In Spain, I will only be staying in Barcelona for a week, and Andalucia for a few days. No problem here.
Where should I go in the Netherlands besides Amsterdam?
I only want to see London in the UK. I won't have enough money to see other cities.
What villages do you recommend I visit? Should I add Belgium and France to my trip?
Nov 13, 2012 10:19 AM
4With 40 days I wouldn't add another country. In fact, you could spend all your time and you would be missing tons of interesting places for you.
In Catalonia, in addition to Barcelona:
Girona is a town close to Barcelona that it's worth a visit (as a daytrip from Barcelona as a minimum).
The province of Girona has some nice villages/little towns that worth a visit like Besalú, Pals, Peratallada...
If you are interested in Dalí, you could take a look at the places listed here.
Aigüestortes i Estany Sant Maurici National Park can be interesting for you. Close to the National park is la Vall de Boí with its Romanesque churches... A great mix of nature and art.
La Garrotxa Natural Parc can be also interesting as well as Montserrat, Montseny Natural Park...
The city of Tarragona deserves a visit too as well as the town of Montblanc, the monasteries of Poblet and Santes Creus, the town of Tortosa, the city of Lleida...
I don't know what places you know in Andalucía but there are also tons of places that could be interesting for you. The cities of Sevilla, Granada, Córdoba and Cádiz will be interesting for you. Probably Málaga too. The white villages (a route through them), the towns of Úbeda and Baeza, Sierra Nevada National Park, Doñana National Park, Cazorla Natural Park, Aracena, Osuna, Carmona, Guadix, Las Alpujarras...
Only with those 2 Autonomous communities you could fill all your time. And there are other 15 Autonomous Communities in Spain (and two Autonomous towns)... You get the idea.
Nov 13, 2012 11:02 AM
Nov 13, 2012 12:02 PM
If you don't mind me asking, why are you set against visiting anywhere in the UK outside of London? I'm not getting defensive about Britain, just curious!
It's a bit of a myth that the UK is prohibitively expensive; things aren't all that pricey once you get out of London - broadly comparable to the Netherlands, in fact. If you like picturesque villages and countryside there are plenty of places that fit the bill within a hour's train ride from central London.
On a wider point, if you're not into nightlife or touristy places, I have to say that the three cities that you've chosen are among Europe's most touristy and all are renowned party capitals. There are lovely, quiet, historical cities in each country that get far fewer tourists.
Nov 13, 2012 1:34 PM
Nov 13, 2012 9:42 PM
8It sounds like you're struggling with the planning process itself as much as with the question of where to go. That's not meant to criticise you, but perhaps the following helps to get you onto the right track.
1. Decide how much time (already done, I see) and money you can afford to spend on this trip.
2. Get a guidebook and a map; I don't know if there are well-stocked English bookstores in Khartoum or whether it's possible to order from e.g. Amazon - if so, get a copy of LP's Western Europe guidebook. If not, download the relevant chapters as pdf from the LP shop.
3. Use these resources, supplemented where necessary by information on the internet, to familiarise yourself with travel essentials (how to access your money, how to travel around etc. etc.) and the most popular sights in each area. Take notes of any places you like the sound of.
4. If all goes well, at the end of step 3 (or while reading through your guidebooks) you'll have a long list of places you wish to visit. Now the real fun starts, because you'll need to take "tough" decisions - i.e. which ones can you realistically visit within your timeframe and budget.
The following thread is a very useful guide to budgetting and itinerary planning: http://www.lonelyplanet.com/thorntree/thread.jspa?threadID=2153476
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