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goldenchapati

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Nov 12, 2012 11:17 PM
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Hi all - VWP USA - Question

Hi all,

I was wondering if I make my way down to Panama - will this 'reset' my visa waiver program or must I leave the Americas completely? I'm a British Citizen who flew into the states three weeks ago and wanted to tour central America some before heading back home. The best I could find was:-

"The 90-day limit may not be extended nor will travel to Canada, Mexico, or the Caribbean reset the 90-day limit. Take care if transiting through the U.S. on a trip exceeding 90 days to Canada and/or Mexico."

So want to be absolutely certain that I will be allowed back in to board my flight in January from Houston.

Thanks,

G.C.

ianw6705

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Nov 13, 2012 2:27 AM
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Panama counts as a territory that is outside the VWP "inclusion zone" - so you should be fine. The zone has been artificially created to try and reduce border-hopping for people who are trying to stay in the US long term (semi-legally or totally illegally). Given your circumstances, you will have no problem at all.

BTW - a trip to Panama doesn't "re-set" your existing VWP documents. It allows you to (a) demonstrate that you left the USA and the zone within the required 90 days, and (b) apply for another VWP without any hassle - which you will need to do to transit through Houston on your way home.

goldenchapati

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Nov 13, 2012 10:34 AM
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Hi Ian,

Thank you for the informative and prompt reply!

When you say 'apply for another VWP', aside from doing the ESTA application form (which I believe is valid for two years), do you mean that I will just be issued this at the boarder (assuming I cross in by land via Mexico)?

Thanks again,

G.C.

bzookaj

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Nov 14, 2012 5:35 AM
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You do not "apply" for the VWP.
You show up at the border and request to enter with it.

So yes, just show up at the border.
(The ESTA, btw, is only required by incoming air and sea passengers, and is valid for 2 years.)

ianw6705

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Nov 15, 2012 11:41 PM
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Bzook is being pedantic again ... although he is correct in the sense that you submit yourself to the ESTA process every couple of years, and a Visa Waiver is (or is not) conferred on you, a bit like a Papal blessing. There is no evidence at all that all this palaver makes America safer, but you need to go through it to achieve convenient travel.

VinnyD

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Nov 16, 2012 12:58 PM
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"Pedantic" has its usual Thorntree sense there, namely, "more accurate than I was."

ianw6705

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Nov 16, 2012 11:33 PM
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"Useful" has its usual Thorntree sense there too - providing good information without technical knots can be a very good thing. Plus I would also argue that you do - in effect - apply for a Visa Waiver - by jumping through a few not-too-difficult hoops (especially if you're white, middle class, and don't look like an illegal immigrant or a terrorist) ... that is the whole point of it.

aubo23

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Nov 17, 2012 11:19 AM
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It sounds like your return from Houston to the UK is within 90 days of your initial admission to the US - in that case there should be no problems at all.
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