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nnms76

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Oct 31, 2012 6:49 PM
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90 days visa

Hi just wondering how the 90 day visa entry is calculated. I am an Australian citizen and first entered ireland on the 10th of September. But then traveled to the Schengen Zone twice on two separate trips for a total of 8 days. Each time getting my passport stamped at re-entry back to Ireland.

Does the 90 days count reset each time I re-enter Ireland or does it accumulate from when I first entered. like the Schengen Zone 90 days within 180 days of travel.

Also does the 90 days include the UK or am I able to stay in Ireland for 90 days then UK for 90 days.

Cheers

Fwoggie

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Nov 1, 2012 2:17 AM
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I'm sorry, I'm confused, are we talking about a Schengen visa, an Irish visa, or a UK visa?

bellart1

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Nov 1, 2012 3:00 AM
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As an Australian, you don't need a tourist visa for the UK, and secondly, the UK isn't part of the Schengen....

Perhaps ask your question again?

Voyager_2002

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Nov 1, 2012 3:42 AM
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The OP is an Australian who knows that he is allowed to remain in Ireland for up to 90 days. The question is, since he has twice left Ireland for other European countries, is he allowed 90 days from the date of his last entry, or from when he originally entered Ireland?

As for the UK angle: remember that Ireland and the UK form a Common Travel Area (CTA). If you enter the CTA by arriving in the UK, you get six months in the CTA: if you like you can spend that six months in Ireland. If you enter the CTA by arriving in Ireland you get 90 days, which again you can choose to spend partly in the UK. So if you arrive in the UK from a country that is not part of the CTA (e.g. France) you get six months, and you are free to spend that time in Ireland.

nnms76

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Nov 1, 2012 3:57 AM
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hi there all of the above actually.

im trying to stretch out my dates in Ireland to be here til mid January. To do this I need to bide time in other countries ie Schengan zone and the Uk.

. The maximum time I can spend in Ireland is 90 days .. if this time resets itself each time I enter Ireland and it doesn't have the same rules as the Schengan (90 days travel per 180 days) then I don't have an issue.

I've been travelling around Europe since July 2012. I started in countries in the Schengan zone to which I know you can only travel 90 days for each 180 day period.

I have already used most of my quota of days in the Schengan and the 90 days in Ireland only gets me to December 16th when I would like to be here til mid January 2012.

I also wanted to know what is the maximum time I can spend in the Uk and this day count is independant to Ireland.

I am aware of other countries not part of the schengan I can visit but Im on a budget and have friends in the uk, slovakia to provide free accommodation as Im only doing this not to use my 90 day quota all at once.

Hope that makes sense.

nnms76

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Nov 1, 2012 4:09 AM
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thanks Voyager thats it :). I flew into Ireland via Paris.

thanks! :)

nnms76

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Nov 1, 2012 4:12 AM
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wish I knew about the CTA that would of solved my issue but then again didn't know I would enjoy Ireland so much :). But that's great info to know .

KoalasRule

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Nov 1, 2012 7:58 AM
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Why is the OP only getting 90 days? I'm an Australian, currently in the UK as a tourist, and I've got 6 months on my passport ...

Actually I'll amend that ... I entered the UK at the beginning of October, got my 6 months leave to remain, then went to Italy for a week, and when I returned to the UK, I got another 6 months leave to remain stamped in my passport.

Edited by: KoalasRule

bellart1

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Nov 1, 2012 8:07 AM
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I don't think he's been to the UK yet - he's in Ireland, where he gets 90 days, presumably he'd get 6 months when he arrives in England.

Voyager_2002

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Nov 1, 2012 8:38 AM
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Well #8, yes and no. Ireland gives 90 days while the UK gives six months, but because the two countries form a Common Travel Area you don't get more (or less) time when you pass from one to the other. For example, an Australian who arrives in the UK from (say) France gets six months, and is free to spend that time in the UK or Ireland. Another visitor who arrives in Ireland gets 90 days, and again is free to choose how to divide that time between the UK and Ireland. However, such a person travelling between the UK and Ireland is treated like someone moving around within a country.

battybilly

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Nov 1, 2012 9:24 AM
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Jeez.... Glad you lot know the rules and reg's.
It cheeses me every time a read this type of thread and all these sort of posts.
Why is travelling so complicated sometimes?

bellart1

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Nov 1, 2012 10:16 AM
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Ditto batty!

So what you're saying voyager, that, say, for an Australian, it's actually better to arrive in the UK rather than Ireland, since you then get 6 months altogether in both places. But if you go straight to Ireland, you only get 90 days altogether in both places, if you then go the UK?

Voyager_2002

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Nov 1, 2012 4:20 PM
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Yes #11, exactly that. Weird, isn't it?

bellart1

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Nov 2, 2012 4:15 AM
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Definitely....

A legal loophole.

battybilly

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Nov 2, 2012 4:18 AM
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The OU should do a degree in Schengen.
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