"Colorful" internet access
Replies: 12 - Last Post: Nov 3, 2012 5:02 AM Last Post By: Tokheim
Oct 27, 2012 6:51 AM
"Colorful" internet accessFor me at least, opening google (and often yahoo), and trying to do anything has gotten really bad over the last 2 weeks. I assume its because of upcoming events. I can't even open my favorite online bike shop's website to order things right now (When they start interfering with my mountain biking, they've crossed the line). I have different ISPs at work and home. Typically they don't mirror each other is service but right now their both equally frustrating. I suppose they'll turn back the dials after the hooplah is over with.
Oct 27, 2012 1:58 PM
Oct 27, 2012 2:04 PM
2OP , where are you? which bike shop do you use ?
Funny thing living in the land of the bicycle, its VERY hard to buy a good bike nowadays. Seems like china has upgraded from bicycle to motor/electric scooter, one cant find bike shops any more but the footpaths are covered in e scooters.
I have just ordered a recumbent trike on Taobao, eagerly awaiting delivery sometime next week.
Yangshuo/Guilin does not have much for bikers so Taobao is my option or a trip to HK for parts.
Oct 27, 2012 5:23 PM
3This is a recent issue, no doubt due to the big "upcoming event" Firewall parameters have been dialed up. I never use Google.hk. I use www.google.com/ncr. Our pal 889 turned me onto to this. It takes you to the standard Google home page without redirecting to a local version ("ncr" means "no country redirect"). I'm in dongbei.
I shop online at Jenson USA and Universal Cycle. The local bike shops back home don't have the selection, just inflated prices. I get ISM saddles from Amazon and Koobi saddles direct. Amazon is usually high on Shimano components, but has comparable prices to Jenson and Universal on bike shoes (Five Ten and Teva).
For the last 13 years I could open Jenson's website, but since 2 weeks ago I can't. I first lost the ability to open the website at work. A week later, I can't open it at home either. Uttlerly senseless to be blocking a bike store website. Over the last 2-3 weeks for me both at home and at work (different ISPs), internet speed has slowed tremendously. Websites take forever to open. You press the search button on Yahoo and get white screens. Getting Google to open at all AND function is a joke.
Oct 27, 2012 5:53 PM
Oct 27, 2012 6:18 PM
5Why do think its hard to buy a good bike here? In every city I've lived in, there are plenty of Giant shops (great after-sales support). The bike situation has improved tremendously over the last 10 years. I really like Taiwan-based Giant (they have a plant in Kunshan, Jiangsu, near Suzhou)). When I first came here, Giant (China) only sold cheap China-market bikes (although the original "Hunter" with its curved top tube was cool looking).
But now, Giant (China) is selling many of the same models sold in the global market. For example, the composite framed XTC mountain bikes and the Roam XR1 and XR2 hybrids. And the pricing here is cheaper than overseas. I have 4 bikes including Giant ATX810 and XTC-C2 MTB's, and I'm ordering a 2013 Roam XR1.
And Shimano (China) typically has a factory-trained tech based in every city. Mine is based at the local Trek store.
Oct 27, 2012 6:45 PM
Oct 28, 2012 3:09 AM
7Thanks for your thoughts. Any search for Hotspot Shield on Google or Yahoo is blocked for me. Anyway, I'm always highly leary of free downloads (not far apart from junk mail). In life, there's no such thing as a free ride. Who knows what's embedded in that free software and I don't want to find out the hard way.
Oct 28, 2012 4:15 AM
Oct 28, 2012 2:59 PM
9The trouble with buying Anything here is my location.
Yangshuo is a small rural town in country Guangxi, there is not a large demand for quality here from the locals so only cheap equipment is sold locally. And everything is imported from other parts of china as there are no factories here. low quality stuff at inflated prices is the norm in Yangshuo.
Giant makes great bikes. I have 15 x Hunter 2's as my hire bikes, they are reliable and fair priced, but the local dealers in Yangshuo and Guilin could care less about you. Service is crap and the bikes are expensive, cheaper to order on Taobao.
There are Only a half a doz. bike shops left in Guilin now, everyone round here would rather upgrade to an e-bike. The country towns are very different to living in large modern chinese cities with regards to sourcing products.
Oct 28, 2012 5:07 PM
10I've been to Yangshuo a few times. Long term, it may get old to you but I'm still jealous of your location. Sorry to hear about the inflated pricing. Dongbei has a lot of that too. I can buy just about anything cheaper in BJ or SH.
In your case, ordering your Giants off Taobao certainly makes sense. I assume you do your own repairs. I don't hesitate to use the warranty and have my Giant shop do some things. Great people with the proper tools and training. But I do most of my own modifications. Once you buy the tools from Pedro's or Park, you're set. If you repacked your bike's bottom bracket and wheel bearings with Phil Wood Grease, I would imagine you'd reduce maintenance on your fleet of bikes.
I liked the original Hunters with the distinctive curved top tube. The kids in Beijing used to remove the fenders on curved tube versions and surprisingly it transformed into a great looking MTB-like bike. But Giant told me some abusive users were cracking frames so that went to the straight top tube.
Nov 2, 2012 6:55 PM
Nov 3, 2012 5:02 AM
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