Help with getting to and from palces in China
Replies: 10 - Last Post: Oct 26, 2012 5:16 AM Last Post By: yy1984
Oct 16, 2012 11:16 AM
Help with getting to and from palces in ChinaHello,
I'm planning a trip to china, and I would like to consult about the lane that i've builed:
I'm landing in Beijing at Nov 3th, and will be there for 2 nights. Afterwards i'm going to Huanglong & Jiuzhaigou Valley by plane for 2 days, I understood that there is a direct flight to Jiuzhaigou Valley, but unfortunately I didn't see any flight there on NOV, Is there flights to Jiuzhaigou at this time? and how much should it cost? how should i manage my time there? which place do i need to go first?
After Jiuzhaigou I'm planning on going to Lijiang and do the Tiger Leaping Gorge trek, how can I get there directly? i haven't found any alternative that allow me to avoid from spending too much time on connection cities like Chengdu...
I would really appreciate your insight because i'm kinda lost.
Oct 16, 2012 1:24 PM
1You need to get to Chengdu. Quickest is to fly Beijing-Chengdu (3hours). From Chengdu there are buses to Jiuzhaigou (10 hours) or you can fly (1 hour).
To go to Lijiang you'll have to go back via Chengdu. From there you either take the long - and often closed - highway route via Kangding, Litang, & Zhongdian. Otherwise there are also direct flights (1.5 hours approx) from Chengdu to Lijiang.
Oct 16, 2012 1:48 PM
2Far easier to fly, of course, but you can also get to Lijiang from Chengdu by taking a Kunming-bound train and getting off at Panzhihua, then taking a bus to Lijiang.
The route via Litang is beautiful and an adventure, but the high pass connecting Yunnan and Sichuan might be closed for the winter by the time you get there, and you'd have no choice but to head all the way back to Chengdu. This route is also closed to foreigners sporadically. So consider this route only if you have a great deal of time.
Oct 17, 2012 12:34 AM
Oct 17, 2012 5:27 PM
5The direct flight from Beijing to Jiuzhaigou usually discontinues for the cold season, sometime during last week of October. If you want to fly into JZH, you must connect via Xi'an (early morning flight only), or Chongqing, or Chengdu. Usually fares priced lowest to highest in the order I mentioned those cities. There is no direct way to get from Jiuzhaigou to Lijiang, if you want to fly the most expeditious way is connecting at Chengdu airport. It may also be possible to connect via Chongqing airport. Depends on your schedule.
Alternate route by road (bus) Chengdu to Jiuzhaigou or vice versa will take you 8 hours (10 on a bad day if road construction). Alternate route by train then bus from Chengdu to Lijiang, as mentioned above.
Jiuzhaigou is a piece of p!ss to get to---either lengthy but reasonably cheap, or quick but very expensive for the short distance traveled. For air tickets in/out of there during first week of November, you best be quick about booking, as I just looked for someone a couple of days ago, and seats were getting pretty booked out. Check www.ctrip.com or www.elong.net or www.travelzen.com all of which you can book online on their English website interface using foreign credit card (travelzen doesn't levy an extra fee for this).
Oct 20, 2012 7:13 AM
6Note this post, which apparently means that the backdoor route to Yunnan via Litang is now closed to foreigners.
Oct 22, 2012 1:29 PM
Thanks alot for your help, It was very helpful!
Due to your recommendations I did some changes on my route, and i would like to here your opinion about it and if you may have remarks:
4-7/11 - Landing in Beijing, on the 7th flight to Xian.
08/11 - Flight from Xian to Jiuzhaigou Valley, going first to Huanglong
09/11 - Going to Jiuzhaigou Valley
10/11 - Going to Chengdu (morning time) by bus
10/11 - Night train to Panzhihua
11/11- Panzhihua to Lijiang by bus
12/11 - Going to Qiaotou
13/11 - Doing the Tiger Leaping Gorge, than going back to Lijiang by bus (where should i take a bus from?)
13/11 - Sleeping in Lijiang
14-15/11 - Dali (by train)
16/11 - Train to Kunming in the morning
16/11 - Night bus (?) to Guilin
17/11 - Going from Guilin to Yangshuo by bus
17-19/11- Staying in Yangshuo
20/11 - Bus from Yangshuo to Guilin
20/11 - Night train from Guilin to Shenzhen
21/11 - Train from Shenzhen to Hong Kong
21-25 - Traveling in Hong Kong
25/11 - Flight back home!
You are more than welcome to add any info!
Oct 22, 2012 1:57 PM
Oct 22, 2012 2:09 PM
9You fly to Xi'an on the 7th and fly out on the 8th? And Ctrip shows the one flight Xi'an-JZG departing at 7:15 am. Why bother with Xi'an at all, then? If it's just a connection to JZG, you'd have more flights and more flexibility from Beijing via Chengdu.
Sleepers on the Chengdu > Kunming route are among the most difficult tickets to buy. You need a back-up plan if you can't get one.
Kunming to Guilin is a very long haul and you'll want to do this by train, not bus, or air if you can't get sleeper tickets.
On your tight schedule, I think you're spending too much time in Hong Kong. And I think you're moving around far too much generally: far too much in far too short a time. I'd make a hard choice and probably cut out JZG and/or Yangshuo, and end the trip by flying from Kunming (or Guilin) to Shenzhen. I'd also skip TLG.
If you're fixed on heading to Xi'an and want to do something outdoors, then hike up Huashan instead of TLG.
Remember that buying each of those train tickets is going to eat up a nice chunk of time: find the station or ticket office, get there, wait in line, then get back to whatever you planned to see. Each ticket purchase can easily kill two or three hours start-to-finish when you're a first-time visitor to China. Remember too that it's normal for things to go wrong in China, and your tight itinerary makes no allowance for the natural vagaries of travel there.
Oct 26, 2012 5:16 AM
Thanks for help!
About Beijing - Xian - Jiuzhaigou:I order from ctrip.com two flight: 07/11 - 07:45 Beijing - Xian, Xian - Jiuzhaigou 08/11 - 07:15, I didn't want to fly to Chengdu because its souther and more expensive. I'm planing to leave Jiuzhaigou at 10/11 so i believe it should be enough.
Moreover, We have 5 days in Hong Kong - If there will be something wrong / we would like to stay more time in some place, we can cut of days fron there.
Thank you again and have a great weekend! :)
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