Replies: 29 - Last Post: Oct 21, 2012 8:17 AM Last Post By: pinchaque
Oct 15, 2012 4:13 AM
Oct 15, 2012 6:24 AM
16This is typical Boris Johnson hyperbole. Our London mayor is more popular than ever following the olympics, and is a great orator and comedian. There has been some debate about whether he's future Prime Minister material or whether he's not serious enough. Max Hastings recently commented "I would not trust him with my wife nor with my wallet."
Oct 15, 2012 6:25 AM
Oct 15, 2012 6:30 AM
Oct 15, 2012 7:13 AM
19I wouldn't think he necessarily implies lack of trust in his wife; men don't want their wives to be subject to advances period, whether or not the advances advance anywhere.
Which brings up this comment in a 1945 book on Australian slang: "Socker and socking, as synonyms for an old English vulgarism widely current in this country, are recent inventions."
Oct 15, 2012 7:40 AM
Oct 15, 2012 8:14 AM
21Random gleanings from 19th C and early 20th C. sources.
Sock was 19th C. Eton slang for "edibles of various kinds privately imported." Etonians also used it as a verb for "to eat," especially food eaten outside of regular meals.
A "sock shop" was a place that sold food.
It is "old cant" for a pocket. "Not a rag in my sock" is BE for penniless.
"To sock" is an Americanism for "to smash a hat over head and ears." Also called "to bonnet."
There is a false etymology that sock, "to hit," came from sockdaloger. (American history and/or trivia buffs will recognize "you sockdolagising old man-trap!") Sockdologer is "1. a decisive blow or remark 2. an outstanding person or thing."
The etymology of sockdologer is unknown, but it dates only to the early 19th C.
Oct 15, 2012 8:22 AM
Oct 15, 2012 8:42 AM
23Max Hastings is simply referring to Boris's well-reported history of having affairs. If his way of saying it sounds a touch, or even more than a touch, politically incorrect, well that is consistent with Max Hastings having said it.
I think sometimes words get around precisely because they have more than one resonance.
Although I think it is irrelevant to the present question, (and apologies for wandering off in this way if it annoys you) but I'm interested to speculate whether Boris would use the word "soccer" for the game most - but certainly not all, or perhaps not all the time - British people call football (other than in specific contexts, for example he played at a Soccer Aid charity game).
Boris went to Eton, which has a curious relationship to the game. It is one of the few Public Schools to play (Association) football rather than rugby. But they also play a unique Eton variant of football known as the Field Game, and for that reason Association football at Eton is often referred to precisely as Association (full stop). Now soccer is precisely a coining derived from Association, like rugger from rugby, which is the kind of turn-of-the-century (19th to 20th) upper class slang that falls comfortably from Boris Johnson's mouth. Unfortunately I no longer have the company (to my knowledge, anyway) of any tame ex-Etonians I could put such a question to. A relation of mine was a teacher there, indeed just at the time Boris was there, but he passed away some time ago, unfortunately very soon after retiring. Oh the things I would have asked him if he had stayed around long enough for his significant former charges to become apparent.
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