City's near Kiev (not to far let's say 4 hours max by day train)
Replies: 12 - Last Post: Oct 11, 2012 11:07 PM Last Post By: alexander656
Oct 3, 2012 10:10 AM
City's near Kiev (not to far let's say 4 hours max by day train)I am looking for some idea's for a city near Kiev, let's say maximum 4 hours by train, from city centre or airport.
I am in Ukraine for about a week and I want to spent 2 days in a different place then Kiev.
Looking for a medium sized city, where there is some nightlife (also during weekdays)...
Anybody has some idea's?
Oct 3, 2012 3:57 PM
2No such cities I afraid. Or may be you could explain more detaily what kind of city do you want.
Let me try to make a little overview to explain the situation.
Thavel time to the largest Ukrainian cities, which are probably interesting enough and nightlife is developed (number 2,3,4 of the Ukraine - Kharkiv, Odessa and Dnipro, and also number 7 which is worth to mention here, because it is most beutiful one - Lviv) - is slightly more and closer to 5 hours:
4:28 by train to Kharkiv, 4:55 by train to Lviv (but only 1 such fast train per day, rest of trains are slow), ~5 h by fastest among the buses to Odessa (only 4 such fast buses per day, rest buses slower, trains even slower but you can sleep in it), 5:54 by train to Dnipro (but there is a hope for the faster train to Dnipro with travel time about ~4:59 will be introduced may be by the end of October).
All cities to which travel time from Kyiv is less the 4 hours - are too small, some of them are moderately interesting, but anyway not too much.
Within this part of country (less than 350 km from the capital) usually you can expect that the smaller the town is - more boring it is (so something more or less interesting you can expect only in larger ones)
Largest among cities located in less than 4 hours of riding from Kyiv is Vinnytsia (population 371 thousand inhabitants, 221 km from Kyiv, travel time by fastest among trains is 2:35) and Poltava (298 thousand inhabitants, 335 km from Kyiv, travel time by fastest among trains is 2:49).
Also worth to mention Chernihiv, it's slightly smaller than Poltava, but at last it has some point of interest - but I'm very unsure about nightlife.
And, BTW, all ukrainian cities which are larger than Vinnycia and smaller than Lviv - are less interesting than Vinnycia as for my taste, so I think not worth even to mention them.
Yes, on the west and on the south there are cities which beeng small (less than Vinnycia) are also more interesting than Vinnycia both by itself and by their nightlife - but to all to them travel time from Kyiv is more than 6:40 (closes of such towns must be Kamyanets-Podilsky, minimal travel time is 6:40, the rest such towns and cities are farther). So from point of view of smaller travel time - not sence to look to them, because travel time to largest Ukrainian cities (Kharkiv, Lviv, Odessa and Dnipro) is less.
Oct 4, 2012 12:48 AM
3I haven't got this point. If you have never been to Ukraine before and probably never return - and you have a time only for one city additionaly to Kyiv it makes a sence to choose between Odessa or Lviv, regardless they are slightly farther than 4 hours of ride from Kyiv.
In that case, i would choose Lviv.
Oct 5, 2012 5:38 AM
4Cherkasy would be an option, I quite liked it, there are many busses not sure about the train times. By car it was about 2.5 hours form Kiev
Oct 5, 2012 5:44 AM
No direct trains from Kiev to Cherkasy.
Oct 5, 2012 6:57 AM
Cherkasy? What a surprise. Cherkasy must be most boring city among regional centers.
You are wrong. One of trains Kyiv - Odessa (147/148) has indirect and curved route via Cherkasy. Travel time is quite long - 4:26 from Kyiv to Cherkasy and 3:42 from Cherkasy to Kyiv.
Oct 5, 2012 7:04 AM
Oct 5, 2012 7:10 AM
Oct 7, 2012 9:47 PM
Lviv I have been to, a very nice city, very beautiful city as well.
I'll arrive at the airport in Kiev, forgot which one, around 13 o'clock, and I would like to travel then to a city for example Vinnytsia , because I think there is at least some nightlife there, and some sightseeing, so it is nice to visit for 1 or 2 days?
Is it easy to travel there from the airport?
Thanks MaxT also for your extensive reply!
Oct 7, 2012 11:36 PM
No direct transportation from any of the airports to Vinnytsia (except taxis of course, lol). You should go first to the central railway station, there are buses to Vinnytsia from there (also trains but in the morning and evening only).
Oct 8, 2012 1:44 AM
May be it makes a sence for you to re-read LP (for example to compare with Poltava and may be other cities which don't match your 4 hours condition), may be to see some photos from those places and ensure if Vinnycia is a good choice for you.
The problem is that both Poltava and Vinnycia has only few sights and I'm unsure if they are interesting for everyone. But taking into account that sights of Poltava and Vinnycia is quite different - we can hope that at last one of them could be quite interesting for you. The only issue - to choise correct one. Or if both Poltava and Vinnycia would be not interesting - you better choose something third (non Vinnycia and non Poltava)
Well, all depends of which airport we are talking about. Look what topicstarter writes
In case of Boryspil - you are correct, there are no train stop in the airport. Moreover, closest train station is not realable to travel to any other city and only links Kyiv with country and small towns. And yes, you must go by bus to the train station, travel time is about 1 hour.
But in case of airport Zhuliany (for example WizzAir use it) - first of all there IS direct connection with Vinnycia. In 900 meters from the terminal - there is train station Kyiv-Volynsky and some of trains to Vinnycia stop here (but only the slowest ones call this station, most of train pass it without stop and in many cases it will be faster to achieve main train station to take faster train here, than to take slower one at Kyiv-Volynsky and spend more time for riding in it). But anyway, main train station (Kyiv-Pas) is within 5,2 km, so it's not a problem to achieve it from Zhuliany if you need to board faster train.
Disagree. Kyiv - Vinnytsia - one of those directions, where any train will be faster than any bus or marshrutka. Such situation is still untypical for Ukraine, but not so rare as in the past. And at the same time - most of trains (including the fastest ones) will be cheaper than bus.
Absolutely no sence to take a bus/marshrutka from Kyiv to Vinnytsia until you can travel by train. Bus ticket will be much more expencive, while travel time will be longer (bus takes about 4 hours).
Trains, suitable for travel between Kyiv and Vinnytsia depart from Kyiv in morning, day, evening and night, there are ~22 services daily.
Yes, they are irregularly distributed during the day and some services are too slow, some - contains only wagons of other countries and thus more expencive. But in any hour normally there are no more than 2 hours to closest suitable train, there are only two exclusions - near midday (no train between 11:05 and 14:40 and in deep night - no train between 1:35 am and 4:12 am). The other point - some of trains are permanently overbooked, so you must book in advance (or you risk to have to use the bus).
Oct 11, 2012 11:07 PM
12MaxT, can I ask you one more (related) question.
The area in Kiev (olympiski stadium), I see I can find a reasonable priced hotel in this area.
Is that a convenient location for both sightseeing, public transport and easy access to nightlife?
(4 star Hotel)
From US$88.00 per night
(4 star Hotel)
From US$168.25 per night
(3 star Hotel)
From US$91.96 per night