Replies: 13 - Last Post: Oct 3, 2012 5:38 PM Last Post By: RobertSDF
Oct 1, 2012 4:46 AM
Cancun ViolenceI often wonder how the US media decides what to report. I am surprised the two drug executions in Cancun on Sunday got no media coverage---especially since the bodies were along the main street in the hotel zone. Everyone always likes to say the violence occurs far away from the tourist area but not the case this time. I hope its not an indication of things to come.
I will put the link to one spanish newspaper article but will warn, the photo is graphic. One thing the article points out is that this was very near two cameras and a tourist police checkpoint but neither saw anything.
Oct 1, 2012 5:38 AM
1It probably wasn't reported because it was a typical intercartel execution and there were only two victims, both of whom were probably street level operatives. The US and international media rarely reports incidents like this. For example, there have more than 100 violent deaths in Nuevo Laredo over the last three weeks ( 7 yesterday/Sunday) linked to the same cause the reporter suspects produced the Cancun event. (. . . las autoridades temen que se desate una lucha por el control de la plaza entre “Los Zetas” y el Cártel del Golfo, al igual que ocurre en el norte del país después de que se diera una ruptura en la cúpula de “Los Zetas”)
Oct 1, 2012 7:10 AM
2Relatively little about the war, terrorism and general crime issues ... or any olther topic of (Mexican) national interest ... finds its way into the news outside of Mexico (and away from the USA/Mexico border zone), and in particular onto the pages or airwaves of the "media" in the USA. The "media" is frequently the 'whipping boy,' by people who don't really know much about the USA and the low-level of interest about Mexico amongst a majority of the residents (in the USA). Similar violence as you're reporting in Cancun occurs regularly in touristed areas in Mexico. Had this occurred during or just prior to Spring Break 2013 it likely would have been reported in media outlets serving the college-aged market.
Oct 1, 2012 11:45 AM
3The incident wasn't reported because it wasn't sensational enough or enough out of the ordinary to be commercially newsworthy outside the Cancun area. That's the same reason a drug related double murder in Miami probably wouldn't make the national news in the US---unless perhaps it was the latest in a seemingly out of control series of events. I also think the shock value associated with Mexican narco violence has worn off and doesn't have the international interest that it did have.
People can make the case that narco violence doesn't present a great risk to tourists without distorting statistics.. For example:
(1) There were 2034 drug related murders in the US between 2007-2010 (ranging between 463-583 annually) according to the FBI's Uniform Crime Reports which they have been compiling now for over 50 years. How many were there in Mexico ( 36% of the US population) according to the Mexican government over that same time frame?
(2) From the safety topic from last week. How many murders were there in Chicago in 2011 (pop. 2,700,000) compared to the 797 reported last year in Acapulco (pop. 860,000)? One does whimper at the skirt of the other, but just the opposite of what was implied on that thread.
The OP lives in Cancun and is hardly given to hysterial posting. I suspect there is a different dynamic to this incident and that is what prompted him to post and ask the question.
Oct 1, 2012 1:34 PM
4I don't think it's a hysterical post, #5, I just that being "surprised" that daily Mexican (or Nicaraguan, or Chilean, British Columbian) gangland murders are not mentioned in the US press is awfully naive.
They happen on a daily basis, ad nauseum, just like they do in the US (whether or not they're characterized as such by the 'Uniform Crime Report'), and it's going to be like that for the foreseeable future short of a major shift. For anyone who really wants to delve into it, local/state papers do report on them, and usually graphically – just like so many of the drug murders this year in Florida which never made it into the national press.
Oct 2, 2012 4:06 AM
5As I said, try posting anything about violence in Cancun on sites such as TA and you will be slammed. I think Cancun and other resorts benefit from the fact that while these events are widely reported in local newspapers, few tourists speak spanish and read local newspapers. Its not unique to Cancun. The Playa del Carmen supporters will try to say extortion and drug executions dont happen there.
Oct 2, 2012 8:13 AM
6At many of the TA forums, "Destination Experts" have the influence to censor remarks the tourism industry or Mexican government finds offensive or which presents a less than desired image of the particular destination. Most people in the USA have little or no interest in what happens in Mexico. The American media largely ignores Mexico. Cancun and Playa seem to attract mostly the 'brain dead' genre of tourists (if comments we read on this forum are representative) who are primarily interested in getting a tan, drinking and having as much sex as they can in a short period of time.
Oct 2, 2012 8:15 PM
7"At many of the TA forums, "Destination Experts" have the influence to censor remarks the tourism industry or Mexican government finds offensive or which presents a less than desired image of the particular destination"
Not sure where you got your information but you are totally wrong. I am a Destination Expert on Trip Advisor and have absolutely no power to censor remarks or do anything else another person posting on the forums cannot do.But I will say, Trip Advisor monitors ¨(employees of TA) would not let comments stand such as the ones made by #16. Not saying I agree or disagree with some of the comments but only saying they wouldnt remain for long.
Oct 2, 2012 8:19 PM
Oct 3, 2012 4:39 AM
9I spend time on many forums, this one and Trip Advisor included. Agreed, both cater to a different crowd. In general, with over 30 years of travel in Mexico, I am not part of the TA "day tripper" crowd. But I accepted the TA offer to be a Destination Expert to express my views which are not the normal "rose colored glasses" views of the area. My information often creates controversy among the TA crowd and often results in my posts being deleted or the entire thread closed because many dont want honest views of the area. So, I think I serve a purpose on TA and will continue to do so.
Edited by: RobertSDF
Oct 3, 2012 7:00 AM
10My travel style falls somewhere in between the perceived audiences of these two forums, so I have used both to plan some excellent trips. It works for me because they are aimed at different types of travelers, so I can take the advice and comments of each under consideration, keeping in mind my own preferences and past experience. (I can take with a grain of salt any recommendations from travelers who would complain about mildew on shower curtains, for example.) It does seem to me that there is a great deal of overlap between the two, and that for better or worse Lonely Planet has gotten a lot less lonely over the years, and TripAdvisor a bit more adventuresome. I have gotten some excellent tips from some of the Destination Experts over there, as well as the regulars over here.
Oct 3, 2012 10:04 AM
Oct 3, 2012 2:32 PM
12Trip Advisor is, first, last and always ... an arm of one of the largest online travel agents - Expedia - and it exists to promote travel and profit for the site owner/business. When discussions on its forums contain remarks which are deemed by tourism industry folks as too risky or damaging to selling travel ... they're deleted. Some of the "Destination Experts" are travel industry or local government employees whose job it is to participate and shape discussions to favor the destinations. Certainly not all, but there many instances when I observed that. There are probably a handful of TA "Destination Experts" who post here regularly. Usually, pimps for the destinations. I respect the user reviews of hotels there, though. I think they're without noticable bias or if there's been a corruption of the process it's minimal. LP's a travel agent, now, as well. I think we see that influence more and more in the guidebooks.
Oct 3, 2012 5:38 PM
13LW, is first , last and always wrong again. Trip Advisor and Expedia are no longer related:
"Some of the "Destination Experts" are travel industry or local government employees whose job it is to participate and shape discussions to favor the destinations."
Can you advise your source of that information?
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