Replies: 27 - Last Post: Sep 25, 2012 7:23 PM Last Post By: trent84
Sep 22, 2012 6:41 PM
Bra$ilI spend a lot of time in Brasil because of family and friends and just returned from a trip to Italy with some of them. We were all surprised by how much more value for the dollar there was in Europe. I think the only thing cheaper in Brasil is the beer. Brasil never was cheap, but I can not imagine how much things are going to be in 2014 and 2016.
Sep 22, 2012 8:32 PM
1Yep, Brazil is more expensive than most countries in the Souther Europe and most countries in the world...quality not always follows the price too.
Sep 22, 2012 9:02 PM
2Yeah, Brasil is a fantastic place to visit. I love the country. But it is staggeringly expensive. And considering what your paying for, you don't always get the same quality.
Sep 23, 2012 1:24 AM
Sep 23, 2012 2:15 AM
Sep 23, 2012 7:59 AM
Sep 23, 2012 9:36 AM
6Depends on what you're evaluating. I went to Italy and I was surprised by the prices in most of the restaurants. Very expensive, in my opinion.
Sep 23, 2012 9:49 AM
Sep 23, 2012 9:50 AM
8Brazil has long been expensive, and that takes many tourists by surprise. . Inflation is at least far less than it was when I first worked in the country (mid-90s), but it is starting to increase again, and the "booming" economy slowing down. Real-USD exchange rate is pretty steady at a bit over 2:1. Import duties have always increased prices. Cars imported to both Brazil and the U.S. can cost twice as much, or more in Brazil. Gasoline costs more in Brazil than in the U.S., where people complain more about its cost.
Most of the beer in Brazil is weak (a la Budwesier, which apparently is now brewed in Brazil along with its sister beer Antarctica). You can find some good ones, but most are harder to find than the pilsner watery brews.
Not discouraging anyone from vistiing Brazil, but they need to be prepared for, overall high costs (and they can still find bargains in food, etc.).
Sep 23, 2012 9:57 AM
9#8 Yeah, most beer in Brazil is simply piss. People like it like this. Bohemia is tolerable, but it's still just a lager. No way of getting nice ale, IPA, hefe...US is so much different, it's is a beer drinker paradise those days. Not as good as Belgium, but still great.
Sep 23, 2012 10:29 AM
10Indeed, the prices of accomodation are very high in Brazil. And I'm not even going to start talking about the absurd prices of electronics, cars, and other products that are inflated with 734798347834987 different taxes.
Gasoline in Brazil is cheaper than the world avarege, but still costs more than countries like US and Argentina, for example.
Most beers in Brazil are very light, I guess because of the heat. Try drinking a heavy beer in a 40 degree Summer!
Sep 23, 2012 10:48 AM
11That's true, in warm climates people prefer weak beers, but it doesn't have to be the lager all the time...Hefenweizen is awesome in the summer time, or any wheat beer in fact. Hoegaarden is a legend and it's bellow 5%, absolute summer brew.
Many nice things for the summer can be done, but mega-breweries don't really bother as people get used to drinking piss.
IPA tastes good in any weather IMO, maybe not heavy double IPA, but a regular one is a way to go. ;-)
Sep 23, 2012 6:10 PM
12Beer in South America is rather weak in general. There are some good microbrewies about (I didn't get to taste any in Brasil - if you have recommendations I'll try some when I'm there over summer). Down in Patagonia has some amazing beers. But you'll pay through the nose for them. I did stumble across my favoruite Australian Beer in Brasil - Coopers Pale Ale - and at the bargain price of $20 Reais, I decided to only have one of these and go back to drinking Brahma or Skol.
Accomm is pricey (20 AUD per dorm bed) and the quality is somewhat shocking. When you go to Peru for example, you can get a dorm for 10 bucks and an amazing bed/facilities. Not to mention, hot water. Which seems to be lacking in parts there.
It also depends on what you choose to do. Doing all the touristy things in Rio will set you back (I think its like 50 Reais to go to Cristo Redentor). When lying on the beach is free.
Its still an awesome country. And I'll still keep going back. But by god, it'll be bad come the Olympics/World Cup.
Sep 23, 2012 7:54 PM
13Well before you hit the microbreweries, there are a number of pretty good beers from the bigger makers to try. Bohemia pilsner is pretty widespread but they also produce a range of 'speciality beers' like Confraria, which is their abbey style beer. They also make quite an acceptable wheat beer too.
Some people swear by Itaipava. I wouldn't but I have been known to swear at it. I've been thinking about writing some free advertising copy for them. Alas all the punchy, pithy lines, like 'Porra!' or 'puta que pariu!' have been expropriated by the drinkers of Schin and Kaiser. I'm not sure that ' Itaipava, o sabor da urina' will work, although as tests have demonstrated if you put Ivete Sangalo in a revealing outfit on the ad, Brazilians will drink almost anything.
Devassa has become quite well known in Brazil and has picked up a number of international prizes. I still don't rate their India Pale Ale but it's still quite quaffable. The other beers are quite acceptable and increasingly common. Even some of the Bompreço supermarkets in Salvador stock it on their shelves. Their choperias in Rio are worth visiting.
It might have been the humidity but I very quickly developed a real taste for Cerpa in Belém. Not that easy to find outside of its home state but some of the boutique beer places in Rio have it. Very crisp and refreshing and I kept knocking them back.
I'm fond of Xingu Preta, allegedly the world's first black lager, as a opposed to a stout. Avoid most Brazilian malzbiers, they're usually as sweet as hell and quite vile.
Micros? Not been there but someone gifted me a couple of bottles from Colorado from Ribeirão Preto in SP. I quite liked the Demoiselle, it's a porter style. Like all such beers I think they're a little better suited to a cooler day. Their IPA was better than the Devassa imo I'd drink it again. I understand they also have a range of other good beers worth trying. One to look out for anyway.
Oddly enough, one of the 'micros' people rave about is Eisenbahn in SC and that's owned by Schincariol, makers of some of Brazil's worst beer. The Eisenbahn Lust, which is a champagne style beer is the one that seems to get all the buzz, personally it didn't do much for me but we're all different. I've tried their defumada and that was.. interesting. Not unpleasant but I'm unfamilar with this style of beer so probably not its best advocate.
The makers of Schin also own Baden Baden. Only one of theirs that I've tried was a Red Ale. If memory serves that was pretty good, I might trying digging out another bottle and seeing if my memory is correct.
There's a lot more out there but there's a few to get you started. Enjoy but just remember, always drink in moderation.
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