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Besides, let's be serious one minute. It's ridiculous to pretend that the state of Israel has no borders more than 60 years after it was created.
You should go and chill out on the beach, there are plenty of magnificent ones in Israel and it can only do you good.
Israel, lawyers specializing in international law, and people like myself who actually read the laws involved - unlike certain intellectually lazy people who refuse to actually read the law and form their own opinion , and prefer just to quote the opinions of others. Laws in general, and international law in particular, can be interpreted in more than one way.
No amount of PR can change reality.
Forget it, ZedisDead. I have been trying to get catw to answer my questions for years without success, as you can see. All he/she does is spew his/her biased agenda based on the opinions of others. Apparently he/she can't think for himself/herself, so that when one points out a fact which does fit his/her agenda, he/she is 'lost'.
Both Israelis and Palestinians deserve to live in peace. Sadly they will never be able to enjoy peace as long as some extremists deny the existence of either the Israeli or the Palestinian people, as you do.
I see that you have changed your mind: it isn't the UN, etc, that determines international borders, it's the travel forums !!!!!!
Are we supposed to take you seriously ?
Both Israelis and Palestinians deserve to live in peace. Sadly they will never be able to enjoy peace as long as some extremists deny the existence of either the Israeli or the Palestinian people.
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Just curious: what is your legal background? I'm asking because you're challenging the definitions of both Israel and of the Palestinian territory as confirmed by the UN Security Council, the United Nations General Assembly, the ICRC, the international Court of Justice and the High Contracting Parties to the Fourth Geneva Convention.Besides, let's be serious one minute. It's ridiculous to pretend that the state of Israel has no borders more than 60 years after it was created.
You should go and chill out on the beach, there are plenty of magnificent ones in Israel and it can only do you good.
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I am not an expert ion international law and I seem to doubt you are one as well, but I have lived in Israel for a number if years as an Israeli citizen and have studied the history of the conflict over the years. I am familiar with land disputes. The internationally recognized borders Israel ha thus are with Egypt and Jordan, through a peace agreement and with Lebanon. The line with the West Bank and Jerusalem were armistice lines determined after the 1948 war in independence. prior to 1967, the Wets Bank had been under annexation by Jordan and Gaza was under an Egyptian military government. There was no such animal as East Jerusalem. Under the UN partition plan of 1947, Jerusalem was supposed to have been internationalized. It was never divided, a demand the Palestinians stand firm on. Do you dispute this?51
Who are these "others"
===================Israel, lawyers specializing in international law, and people like myself who actually read the laws involved - unlike certain intellectually lazy people who refuse to actually read the law and form their own opinion , and prefer just to quote the opinions of others. Laws in general, and international law in particular, can be interpreted in more than one way.
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The so called Green Line has never been recognized as an international border. Border disputes re decided through negotiation and mutual agreement. Ccatw, no matter how hard you search, you will never find a legal decision designating the Green Line and an international border, and you certainly will not find a ruling designating Jerusalem as a divided city.53
The United Nations Security Council, the United Nations General Assembly, the International Committee of the Red Cross, the International Court of Justice and the High Contracting Parties to the Fourth Geneva Convention have all confirmed that Israeli settlements in the Palestinian territory are illegal as they are in breach of the Fourth Geneva Convention.No amount of PR can change reality.
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You never answered my question. How is it "Palestinian territory" if they never had sovereignty over it?55
#65Forget it, ZedisDead. I have been trying to get catw to answer my questions for years without success, as you can see. All he/she does is spew his/her biased agenda based on the opinions of others. Apparently he/she can't think for himself/herself, so that when one points out a fact which does fit his/her agenda, he/she is 'lost'.
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How come there's a "Palestinian territories" thread on this forum and on all travel forums online if the Palestinian territory "does not exist"?Both Israelis and Palestinians deserve to live in peace. Sadly they will never be able to enjoy peace as long as some extremists deny the existence of either the Israeli or the Palestinian people, as you do.
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How come there's a "Palestinian territories" thread on this forum and on all travel forums online if the Palestinian territory "does not exist"?I see that you have changed your mind: it isn't the UN, etc, that determines international borders, it's the travel forums !!!!!!
Are we supposed to take you seriously ?
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Who needs to go to Israel to see the conflicts there? Can we at least be free of it on LP! Stand back from the world globe by about 3 feet and realise that there is a lot bigger world than just your little bit of dirt. Get over it!59
The United Nations Security Council, the United Nations General Assembly, the International Committee of the Red Cross, the International Court of Justice and the High Contracting Parties to the Fourth Geneva Convention have all confirmed that Israeli settlements in the Palestinian territory are illegal as they are in breach of the Fourth Geneva Convention.Both Israelis and Palestinians deserve to live in peace. Sadly they will never be able to enjoy peace as long as some extremists deny the existence of either the Israeli or the Palestinian people.
