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First trip to Israel!

Replies: 72 - Last Post: Apr 19, 2013 5:36 AM Last Post By: mark07

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Shuffaluff

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Sep 21, 2012 4:03 AM
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And all this (the usual catw rant, so b-o-r-i-n-g and predictable) has precisely what to do with going by bus to Bethlehem? Which was asked in post #14.

catw

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Sep 21, 2012 4:06 AM
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The United Nations Security Council, the United Nations General Assembly, the International Committee of the Red Cross, the International Court of Justice and the High Contracting Parties to the Fourth Geneva Convention have all confirmed that Israeli settlements in the Palestinian territory are illegal as they are in breach of the Fourth Geneva Convention.

The Government of Israel disagrees, but he's the only one.

Shuffaluff

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Sep 21, 2012 4:25 AM
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Repeat #34.

a1

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Sep 21, 2012 7:02 AM
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#35 (catw)

Repeat #33 and #31

I don't think we'll get any answers from catw - as usual.

catw

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Sep 21, 2012 7:19 AM
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Repeat #35, it contains all the answers you're looking for.

ZedisDead

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Sep 21, 2012 7:49 AM
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I cannot recall in history when the West Bank was under control of Palestinains. The territory had beeen annexed by Jordan in 1952.

Pinky85

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Sep 21, 2012 8:16 AM
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@Shuffaluff

Thanks, but I don't think anyone read post 14 or 34.

I purchased a guidebook so I am hoping that it will answer my remaining questions.

Thanks to everyone who answered my questions. :)

ZedisDead

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Sep 21, 2012 8:24 AM
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Pinky,

you shoud have a good safe trip in israel

This might be of some help to you:
http://www.teva.org.il/english/ecotourism

Pinky85

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Sep 21, 2012 2:57 PM
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@ZedisDead

Thank you for your informative link. I will add it to my useful links collection! :)

catw

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Sep 22, 2012 4:18 AM
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Zedis, your loss of memory is not relevant to your fellow travellers.

ZedisDead

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Sep 22, 2012 5:59 AM
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Sorry Cat, I really am not a student of pop culture's history of the Palestinians-Israekli conflict. I do know that the Ottomans controlled the region that included Israel up until 1917, I recall a British mandated territory being established by the League Nations, and it became known ask Palestine. I do recall that it was initially portioned, allowing the creation of Jordan. There was another attempt to partition it between Jews and Palestinian Arabs in 1947. The Palestinians Arabs along with the Arab League rejected it. The invasion buy surround Arab states resulted in the loss of the West Bank and East Jerusalem to Jordan and Gaza to Egypt. Jordan went on to annex the West Bank and East Jerusalem in 1952. Then we get up to 1967, when Arab threats of invasion, rattling did not have a good result for them.

Sorry if you prefer to dabble in fiction. But I do not for the life of me recall Palestinian Arab ever having control over the West Bank. And we do know that Jerusalem was not ton be included in either state.

catw

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Sep 24, 2012 1:25 AM
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The United Nations Security Council, the United Nations General Assembly, the International Committee of the Red Cross, the International Court of Justice and the High Contracting Parties to the Fourth Geneva Convention have all confirmed that Israeli settlements in the Palestinian territory are illegal as they are in breach of the Fourth Geneva Convention.

The Government of Israel disagrees, but he's alone.

Everyone, including Israel (see the Olso agreements) agrees that there are two nations in the so-called Holy Land: Israel, and Palestine (West Bank, including East Jerusalem, and Gaza)

catw

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Sep 24, 2012 5:38 AM
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Just curious: what is your legal background? I'm asking because you're challenging international law as acknowledged by the UN Security Council, the United Nations General Assembly, the ICRC, the international Court of Justice and the High Contracting Parties to the Fourth Geneva Convention.

mbgg

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Sep 24, 2012 6:03 AM
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ZedisDead:
But those cases are "different" .....
Of course the EU is in a "position" ! Don't you know that AsAEuropeans (like Catw) are morally superior people who have granted themselves the right to judge the rest of the world ?

catw

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Sep 24, 2012 6:12 AM
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The United Nations Security Council, the United Nations General Assembly, the International Committee of the Red Cross, the International Court of Justice and the High Contracting Parties to the Fourth Geneva Convention have all confirmed that Israeli settlements in the Palestinian territory are illegal as they are in breach of the Fourth Geneva Convention.

This is not Europe, this is international law.

Worth noting that there are 7.5 millions Israelis living in Israel, as compared to only 500,000 settlers living in the Palestinian Territory.
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