PHUKET - THE NEW 'BALI' ?
Replies: 80 - Last Post: Sep 19, 2012 10:43 PM Last Post By: davelliot
Sep 13, 2012 8:06 PM
30RE# ANDIE -
QUOTE - "So Dave, if Phuket is too over developed"
Well ,I don't go to Phuket anymore so its not case of me finding its overdeveloped , the point of the thread was just to pass on what was going on as a point of interest.
QUOTE - "what about Ko Lao Liang? Simple accomodation, done eco style, beautiful pristine beach, etc. etc. It would seem to tick all your boxes... "
I just looked at Travelfish site and according to that the cheapest room there is 1500 baht ! , Thats a very expensive price for 'simple accommodation' , For some travellers 1500 baht could be more twice their average daily budget. You can get a good room with bathroom in Changmai for about 200 baht and yet Ko lao Liang costs 1500 baht . ! . 1500 baht is 5 times the daily minimum wage.
Sorry , I don't like eco resorts either , they are a bit too neat and sterile looking as well as being expensive. I like the old style traveller bungalows,
Sep 13, 2012 8:32 PM
31If you'd bothered to look you'd see that 1500B includes all meals... Chiang Mai is in the North of Thailand: totally different economic factors at play. The South has always been more affluent and expensive than the North. Comparing Chiang Mai with Phuket/Krabi area is like comparing Inverness with St. Ives.
I've told you this before but you seem to have forgotten: if you want cheap bungalows with little development you are looking in the wrong country. Thailand went past that years ago - get over it and quit wingeing on here about it.
Sep 13, 2012 9:22 PM
32#29 Developers want to make money, that's why they develop resorts
Yes they do, and to do so they are prepared to destroy the very environment that made the beach popular in the first place. Money beats the environment everytime.
Humans have become a sick species, and Gaia will off us for it!
#32 If you'd bothered to look you'd see that 1500B includes all meals
Hardly worth it when one considers that one can eat well for 200 baht a day just about anywhere in LOS. I'd much rather buy my own meals than have to pay a resort a rip off price for food.
Thailand went past that years ago
You obviously never explored Thailand much then. There are beaches with few people and cheap low impact accomodation if you know where to look.
get over it and quit wingeing on here about it
Sez who? Dave's got as much "right" to whinge as anyone else has the "right" to extol crappy expensive resorts and beaches ruined for greed.
Sep 13, 2012 9:56 PM
- If you read the opening post , I didn't comment or tell anyone what to do , I just quoted an article and let it speak for itself.
Yes, true enough, but it is not the first one and the only articles you seem to post here are always and endless about the same topic - wahhh, more big resorts build, wahh, where is my little wooden beach hut, wahh, they are destroying 'my dream beach bamboo huts'...
It does come across as a whinge therefore.
But TBL has it right:
- Dave's got as much "right" to whinge as anyone else has the "right" to...
After all its a public forum...
Sep 14, 2012 9:42 AM
34"1600 baht and up which is more expensive than some touristy farang beach "
Nonsense , even to get a wooden bungalow with bathroom on Ao Sane cove near Nai Harn on Phuket it will cost almost that - 1300 baht"
You are talking shit. I was talking about Trang not Phuket. You can't even quote me properly. Thumrin Thana gets 99% Thai guests and charges 1600 baht a night which is more than a lot of farang areas. You can find similar hotels in Ao Nang for 1000 baht.
What is the point of all your whinging? Does somebody pay you to write all of this crap? You should go find something better to do.
Sep 14, 2012 9:44 AM
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Sep 14, 2012 9:56 AM
38"Meanwhile in Trat can get rooms for little over 100 baht , can get rooms in Bkok and Changmai for 200 baht or under . In the case of Trang ,if you want it to be less expensive then don't stay in Mid range, stay in non air con ordinary guesthouses or hotels."
Why would I want to stay in a 150 baht rat infested prison room? That's not a holiday. That's a sentence. If these rooms are so great then go there and stop having a cry about every other type of room.
Sep 14, 2012 10:08 AM
Sep 14, 2012 10:25 AM
You're retired, you live on a budget here: not everyone does, so 1500B for many (albeit not me personally) seems OK, especially if they're 2/3 week tourists who want the eco/no high-rise beach thing. Simple fact is if you want the cheap beach hut on an undeveloped beach it's not easily accessible. Expecting to rock up to an island that now has a safe modern boat service with life jackets, etc. and it to be backpacker heaven is a contradiction. Think back 10-15 years ago when boats sunk on at least a bi-weekly basis: it rarely happens now. It's called progress. And in turn that brings the less intrepid travellers, which in turn brings the type of facilities they want.
My comment re. Thailand went past that years ago more refers to the easy to reach beaches: the likes of Phuket, Samui, Krabi, etc. which all have airports now. For sure there are still some great beaches but they either take effort to get to, or serious money to stay there (there are loads of amazing villas that you can rent in Phuket and Samui with what is practically their own private beach).
I've explored Thaland lots, been to almost every province, and yes there are beaches "with few people and cheap low impact accomodation if you know where to look." Similan Islands being a good example: national park, bungalows are cheap albeit simple but beautiful setting. There are other places too but these are not easily, and at certain times of the year safely, accessible.
Finally: yes, this is an open forum but Dave is a bit like an old vinyl record that's got stuck. Post something progressive and not something that's reminising about a long gone past
Sep 14, 2012 7:42 PM
41RE # 32
QUOTE - "you'd bothered to look you'd see that 1500B includes all meals... Chiang Mai is in the North of Thailand: totally different economic factors at play. The South has always been more affluent and expensive than the North. Comparing Chiang Mai with Phuket/Krabi area is like comparing Inverness with St. Ives."
Okay, what about Ko Kood in Trat province ? its often talked about as an expensive island , yet you can find rooms in some locations for 500 baht or under !. I think even the Chief has said in the past that he can find air con room in Krabi area for 900 baht . Face it , your eco resort is expensive.
QUOTE - " if you want cheap bungalows with little development you are looking in the wrong country. Thailand went past that years ago - get over it and quit wingeing on here about "
You are sounding like Havemoneywillgo !, go back and read the opening post , it merely quoted an article about what was going on in Phuket , it did not contain whingeing or any opinion from me.
As for Thailand going past that way years ago , not quite , Andy why don't try Little Ko Chang or Ko Payam near Ranong , you can find palces to stay much cheaper than your "eco resorts".
Sep 14, 2012 7:52 PM
QUOTE - "the first one and the only articles you seem to post here are always and endless about the same topic - wahhh, more big resorts build, wahh, where is my little wooden beach hut, wahh, they are destroying 'my dream beach bamboo huts'...
Actaully the number of post- a -new topics I have started about these things you could count on the fingers of one hand. In any case at least the "waaaahhhs" contain info about whats happened . Other posters didn't bother to give details about whats happened to Thong Nai Pan , no one else bothered to mention that is a big Le Meridian resort on Lamai beach.
For the minority who still like the old style huts why shouldn't they be given info about whats happening ? , and not everyone is aware of the full extent of the situation.
You yourself have been known to whinge about Bob Marley pubs and 'masspackers'.
Sep 14, 2012 8:06 PM
43RE # 35 -
QUOTE- ". You can't even quote me properly.... You are talking shit. I was talking about Trang not Phuket"
You compared Trang to tourist beach price , so I mentioned a beach on Phuket. Thank you anyway for pointing you can get upmarket room for 1000 baht on Ao Nang - food for thought for Andie.
QUOTE - "Thumrin Thana gets 99% Thai guests and charges 1600 baht a night which is more than a lot of farang areas. You can find similar "
Well you should have looked around more in Trang and found a cheaper place.
QUOTE - "Does somebody pay you to write all of this crap? You should go find something better to do. "
What was your motivation for joining in on this thread ?
QUOTE - "The point was to whinge and go wahhh where are my beach huts "
Where does its say that in the opening post ?. You provoked this into a discussion about these other things, my intention was just to quote the article and let anyone make of what they will of it.
QUOTE - "Why would I want to stay in a 150 baht rat infested prison room"
There are rooms in Trat for around a 100 baht that are spotlessly clean.
Sep 15, 2012 4:34 PM
44How old were you in the 1970s? People always look back on their youth with favourable views.
"can't afford to stay at a beach that they have visited for many years"
You can't afford a room that costs $30 a night? If you don't have any money you shouldn't be having beach holidays. Holidays are for people who work and save money.
(4 star Hotel)
From US$90.18 per night
(3 star Hotel)
From US$53.06 per night
(3 star Hotel)
From US$81.20 per night