Langtang Trek Route options?
Replies: 12 - Last Post: Aug 3, 2012 7:58 PM Last Post By: roger_ray
Aug 1, 2012 6:59 PM
Langtang Trek Route options?Hi everyone
I will be in Nepal In spring next year and after much thought have decided to trek in Langtang.
I was wandering what routes are possible and which routes people would recomend? I will have about 2 weeks and have walked the AC.
I will be hoping to do the trek with my partner so should avoid the porter/guide rule (with my current understanding of it any way).
I like to trek indepently so if anyone has any advice about the tea houses that would be great.
Lastly has anyone ever booked a jeep to the start of the trail, Syrabesi? (I know that is a terrible attempt at the spelling). I only ask because my partner suffers from terrible motion sickness. But she doesn't want it to hold her back. I know this could be a massive problem in Nepal as bus journeys are very long very, bumpy and very windy.
Thanks for all the advice
Aug 1, 2012 8:50 PM
1CBrad, Langtang is a relatively narrow valley as you can see from a map so it's basically in and out along the river, that is you mostly repeat the route...one alternative as indicated in some trek guides is to go up the north side of the river thru Khangjum to Syarpagaon, you can stay there, then rejoin the route going up near the Lama Hotel, thereafter it is a single trail the rest of the way...I prefer to do the alt route going up so if you decide to go to Gosinkunde on the way down/back the trail on the S side of the valley makes more sense and you get to see that initial alt route. Into thin air/Rob will likely respond to your msg, he has good info and a video of the alt route I believe.
Also you can plan to stay at some of the small villages on the way from the Lama Hotel to Lantang so that you miss groups etc and give some income to smaller places that do not see so much business...more family like too.
Last time in Langtang at Kyanjn Gompa I really liked the Lovely Guest House, very small, few rooms (no groups), small upstairs hang out room with furnace and lots of windows for sunshine and views.
My friend having experienced some alt sickness day afer arrival when we headed up to Tserko Ri I now recommend a relaxing day walking some hrs up the river especially (for altitude) and around the 'village' also to facilitate acclimatization the day after arrival. Then the next day go up to Tserko Ri. However many people go up the day after arrival.
Jeep to Syabru Besi...expensive...I guess the ride would be less motion sick inducing but my last Toyota Landrover ride in Nepal was pretty much a hold on for life type thing. One option is hke thru Helambu...shorter bus ride. But it looks like you'll have to do that bus either to or from Langtang at least once. It was reported about 2 yrs ago that the majority of the road was 'paved' but haven't seen any reports on what kind of ride to expect now...Don' sit in the back of the bus....plastic bags are regularly handed out to passangers for puking, have fun.
If you have two weeks for the trek you can easily add Gosinkunde and portions of Helambu---say Melamchigyaun, Tarkegyaun with day hike up to Ama Yangri--solid day hike with big stupa and great views--then work your way along the contour ridge walk out to Gangyul (on the way to Sermathang) then down to Thimbu...as a suggestion...new roads have been built recently from KTM to Melamchigyaun and KTM to Tarkegyaun though again no reports on condition that I have seen.
Aug 1, 2012 9:14 PM
Here is my itinerary from this year.
Sunday 4th Kathmandu 1 day 1
Monday 5th March Bus to SyabruBensi or trek Thulo Syabru 2
Tuesday 6th trek to Lama Hotel 2470m 3
Wednesday 7th trek to Langtang 3500m 4
Thursday 8th trek to Kyanjin Gompa 3800m 5
Friday 9th trek to Kyanjin Gompa 3800m 6
Saturday 10th trek to Kyanjin Gompa 3800 m 7
Sunday 11th trek to Lama Hotel 2470m 8
Monday 12th trek to Syabru 2200m 9
Tuesday 13th trek to Sin Gomba 3350m 10
Wednesday 14th trek to Gosainkunda 4320m 11
Thursday 15th trek to Ghopte 3560m 12
Friday 16th trek to Kutumsang 2440m 13
Saturday 17th trek to Chisopani 2190m 14
Sunday 18th March bus/trek to Kathmandu 1300m 15
Monday 19th March Kathmandu 1 day 16
We actually did it two days more quickly on the leg from Syabru (not Syabrubesi) out to Kathmandu. If you have already acclimatised you may take another day off somewhere. Perhaps only two nights at Kyanjin Gompa.
Re the bus trip, despite all I had read, it wasn't the worst. We spent most of our time on the roof. Just out of interest, one of the worst road trips I had was crammed into a jeep on the way down from Jomson.
PM me if you want more detail, photos etc.
Aug 1, 2012 9:18 PM
I'm pretty sure I was quoted $180 or $200 for the jeep from Kathmandu to Syabrubesi.
Aug 2, 2012 2:44 AM
Thanks for all that info, thats fantastic.
So it seems that a jeep would be worse then? Well i guess we will just have to arm ourselves with plastic bags and hope for the best, should be a fantastic journey :-).
If anyone has any videos, blogs or pictures that would be great. I cant wait to get over there.
Thanks for the tea house information roger. I must admit the only bad point on the Annapurna circuit was the groups. Not that i blame people for going in groups, its just they do kind of have a monopoly in some places and you can kind of be over looked. I much prefer the family run places.
thanks again guys, if anyone else has any info, that would be brilliant the more the merrier.
Aug 2, 2012 2:52 AM
5Excellent info already posted and only a few snippets to add
Langtang is one of my favourite teahouse trekking regions, I have trekked there twice and as you asked for blogs you might be interested in the Sports Travel and Off the Beaten Path tips section in the link in my signature - Also my little Langtang Videos.
Route options – Don’t miss the high level route via Sherpagon – Very few trekkers use this path !!!
4x4 hire – I did this 2 years ago and advertised on here for trekkers to come along and share costs – It certainly works out more expensive than the bus, but it’s also a Lot more comfortable ;-)
I think I paid about $150
Good luck and happy safe trekking
Aug 2, 2012 3:00 AM
The advantage with a hired jeep is the ability to stop when you wish, maybe seek others to share the cost. As Roger said, there is at least one long journey to Langtang ahead of you. If you do trek to Gosainkund and Helambu the ourneys back to KTM are shorter; about 5 hours from Melamchi Pul or 1 hour from Sundarijal.
I second the idea to trek out via Syerpagaon because the views are than down in the valley. Alternatively, you could start from Thulo Bharkhu trek to Thulo Syabru then drop down to the valley trail (if going to Gosainkund this would involve re-tracing steps)
The great thing about Langtang, in my view, are the opportunities to explore beyond Kyanjin Gompa; c limbing prermit-free peaks and continuing up the valley. There are no lodges but I understand it's possible to hire a tent in KG.
Gosainkund and Helambu offer different landscapes and culture; the trail gets above the tree line again towards the top, good view points above Gosainkund then a long descent (orobably the hardest day) into Helambu which has both Bhuddist and Hindu culture with a number of interesting villages as Roger said.
Good luck, it's a great trek.
Aug 2, 2012 6:07 PM
i have just been having a more in depth look at the information and I was wanddering if you could help me with a couple of things?
What is the route going over Ganja La like? Would you need a tent and be self sufficient for this route?
Also how long would this roughly take? If i went down to Tarkeghyang then changed course over towards gosainkund and out at Dhunche?
I ask beacuse i like to avoid going over my tracks as much as possible.
Hoofer I like your route how did you find it Physically?
Thanks again for all this information. You guys should put your heads together a write a nepal trekking guide book or something.
Aug 2, 2012 8:48 PM
Aug 2, 2012 9:48 PM
9"just learned that there are no tea houses on the Ganja La route so probably a no go for me"
Don't get all hung up on backtracking 2 days back down the Langtang V. Then you start up to Gosinkunde, and drop down into Helambu...Believe me, it is a lot easier than the Ganja La. And even if you managed to do the Ganja La with all the attendant hassles, expense, and time involved then going back up from Tarkegyaun to Gosinkunde is IMHO a bass ackwards routing especially if you were to come back down to Helambu to exit (and avoid the lovely bus ride back from Dunche to KTM).
Aug 3, 2012 4:15 AM
Regarding your question of how physically demanding this trek was, I think this is a very interesting and subjective question.
Every trek I have done has followed a similar pattern comfort-wise. By this I mean that no matter how much pre-training I do, I always struggle at the start. By the end I am doing it easily.
Our actual itinerary differed slightly from our itinerary as we trekked two hours from Syabrubesi after arriving on the bus. This meant that we stayed at a little place called Rimche (I think) translated as Landslide. Easy day. I recommend it.
Day two we trekked to Ghore Tabela. This was a tough day.
Day three we trekked to Langtang. Medium day.
Day 4 trek to Kyangin Gompa. Easy day
Day 4 or 5 (can't remember) trek to glacier and Kyangin Ri. Short intense day.
Next day. Tserko Ri. Long hard day. I would be interested to what others say here. It took me and my mate about 8 hours in total and we know we followed the correct route. A local guide and another ex-pat Aussie said they could do it in an hour and a half!
Either way, it is a really tough day.
Down hill was easy. We stayed at Lama Hotel.
Then we made a mistake and took a "short-cut"across the ridge to Syabru. This is from the yellow arrow on the rock on your left. Big mistake. Hard day. Follow the main route.
From Syabru we made another slight navigational error and missed Sing Gompa. This meant a long tough day to Laurebina. Here we stayed at the first lodge we got to. You willl know it when you see it as it is quite large. I wouldn't recommend it. The staff were great, but it was so cold!. By this I mean that their water supply was a frozen solid 200 litre drum in the dining room. They had to hack off solid chunks to cook with.
From there we trekked over the pass and down to Phedi. This was a medium day, only made medium because there were stages where we were knee and waist deep in snow.
From there it was easy all the way to Kathmandu.
Over to you. Feel free to ask more questions.
Aug 3, 2012 4:50 PM
Roger, I think your right, thats definitely the route im going to take. I just have aa tendency to get carried away when Im planning with all the pictures, videos etc. Thank you for all the advice.
Sorry Hoofer, I suppose it is a very subjective question. Thank you for that write up it will no doubt be invaluable when i get over there.
Just changing the subject, does anyone know any good value places to stay in Kathmandu. I had a bit of a nightmare last time i was there. Its funny looking back now but at the time not good.
Thanks again guys your advice is a massive help.
Aug 3, 2012 7:58 PM
12Hey, CBrad, easy to do in all the excitement. Your own reading/research and info obtained here will hopefully give you some good giuidance.....backpacker style I like the Holy Lodge and/or Down Town Hotel, on the zig zagy street to the N and W of KTM GH...others have suggested the Florid. These tend toward the inexpensive but have accessible roofs, nice people, and just fine, IMHO.
(0 star Hotel)
From US$16.00 per night
(3 star Hotel)
From US$72.00 per night
(4 star Hotel)
From US$150.00 per night