Replies: 14 - Last Post: Aug 4, 2012 9:14 AM Last Post By: e441993
Jul 22, 2012 2:04 PM
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Jul 23, 2012 5:36 AM
4I was in Flores in March this year.
!. Travel is very slow due to narrow roads and hundreds of hairpin bends, traffic has to bank up as trucks need both lanes to negoatiate hairpin corners.
2. All bemo drivers are liars, they will tell you that the bemo will leave immediately, then drive around for an hour chasing passengers.
3. Theft from hotel rooms in Labuan Bajo can be a problem if your room is not secure.
4. Strong currents are a problem for scuba diving off Western Flores.
Jul 23, 2012 2:06 PM
5Gary, we had one of those bemos in Maumere - afert about an hour of driving around being vibrated by booming speakers we abandoned it, amid protests, for ojeks.
Apart from that the only minor problems I can remember from last time .... a small traffic accident Ruteng/Bajawa necessitating a change of bus (but organised by the driver and costing only half hour).... and rain, of course. Internet speed/availability could be a problem if this is a daily need.
People super friendly. Landscape stunning. You'll have a great time. We plan to pass through again next year.
Jul 23, 2012 6:36 PM
Jul 23, 2012 8:49 PM
7"Keliling" is what it's called when they drive around town looking for passengers.
In many towns all over Indonesia there are 3 "drivers" that you should know about:
(1). # 1 sits in the driver's seat in the terminal or at the departure point reving the engine like it is ready to depart for the destination.
(2). # 1 then gets out and # 2 gets in and drives around town looking to fill the vehicle with passengers, then returns to the terminal or departure point.
(3). # 2 then gets out, and when the vehicle is finally ready to go to the destination the real driver # 3 then gets in and you are off -- but only usually if the vehicle is full.
Even worse is when passengers in rural areas are driven home by the driver, often miles off the main road, or when the vehicle stops for an hour to pick up or drop off a business passenger's commercial goods.
Jul 24, 2012 2:56 AM
8Seems you have had lots of fun experiences Answer Man. Generally I'm quite fond of "keliling" .... I used to proudly accept the title of "Pengeliling Dunia"... but no, not round in circles in town in a hot and noisy bemo. Good chance to develop patience though I suppose, and definitely not the worst thing that can happen with one's day.
Jul 26, 2012 2:15 AM
9TheAnswerMan has many truth to his post. But then, you can visit the locals house per se, like every traveler wants to do LOL!
GaryD has some true points too.
Some buses have limited schedules. Like buses from Bajawa to Riung only depart twice a day.
Jul 29, 2012 4:27 PM
10There is no problem travelling in Flores in November. I visited Flores in November 2010 and 2011. I am considering to go in November 2012 as well. Enjoy.
Jul 30, 2012 3:36 PM
11Hi flores experts
I will go to indonesia for the 3rd time in august, with someone who will be there for the first time.
We ll stay for 3 weeks, bali is a must see and we have to meet up some old friends in lombok-gili.
So there are about 8 days ( including travelling) to see something new for me. I am into snorkelling and local culture. I am considering flores or sumba and I have many doubts. I would appreciate some help:
a) 8 days, including transport FROM bali and TO lombok, is not much time. I am excluding sumba for this reason . or do you think i would be able to arrange it and get a taste if the island in 8 days? I am concerned about transport.
b) Flores seems easier to arrange: some tips on flores?
This is a rough plan at the moment
flight in maumere (day 1) ( I have not manage to book !)
moni and kelimutu ( day 2 and 3)
c) and then bajawa- ( riung?) ( day 4-5??) or head directly to labuan bajo-komodo. is snorkelling around komodo, rinca as good as in riung?
We would like to see the famous beasts and do some snorkelling in places like kanawa and/or find a snorkelling-cruise back to lombok (5-7) . Any advice?
d) Has anybody tried a cruise from luaban bajo to lombok via rinca etc ...lately? I have read quite a lot about the perama tour and I got the idea that we might as well try a "cruise" arranged by locals, for half the price...
Jul 30, 2012 4:10 PM
12I have previously posted on this forum about my experiences in Flores, including the Perama cruise to Lombok via Rinca Island. See: http://www.lonelyplanet.com/thorntree/thread.jspa?threadID=2226557
The cruise takes two nights and three days which would cut into your eight day trip. All visitors to Komodo Island and Rinca Island have to pay a Rp 200,000 fee to the Komodo National Park. In addition there is a Rp 50,000 "camera fee".
Perama charged me Rp 1.235m including the Rp 200,000 fee to the Komodo National Park. I had to pay the Rp 50,000 "camera fee" directly to the ranger at the Komodo National Park. Perama boats leave regularly. Departure dates are on www.peramatour.com.
In looking for a non-Perama cruise, you should compare their departure dates and whether their prices include the above fees.
Though you do not have much time, you could consider visiting the Hobbit Cave at Ruteng.
Jul 30, 2012 4:40 PM
13I really enjoyed the cruise with Perama.
Maybe not the cheapest option...but its not expensive by Western standards at all. Plenty of interesting stops,the food is not bad,the crew are friendly and speak English (good if your Indonesian is as bad as mine ;-)...you do some excellent snorkelling and I met a load of great people on there.
If you have the money I think its a very good choice....
Aug 4, 2012 9:14 AM
Travelers visiting Flores mostly enter via Labuanbajo. Visit the dragons at Komodo or Rinca island (a must see) and do the 4-5 days trip to Maumere and fly back to Bali. Considering you have 8 days for Flores and want to make the most of it you can consider the following.
Going to Komodo island is an overnight trip. Going to Rinca will save you one night. The change to encounter the ‘dragons’ is higher on Rinca island. You will be able to snorkel on the return leg to Labuanbajo. The next day you can start your overland Flores tour. Or you can spend one extra day for snorkeling in Labuanbajo. Snorkeling in Labuanbajo is superior to snorkeling in Maumere (I am not sure about the Riung Islands). We dropped Riung islands from our plan as we were snorkeled out in Labuanbajo. Also it saved us a night spent in Riung.
Arriving in Maumere you can consider the following plan. 1. Stay at Sea World Club, Lena House or Ankermi and arrange a hike up to mount Egon. It can be done if you are in fit condition. You have to walk up and down steep gorges. It’s an all day hike. 2. Rent a motor bike (50,000 rp) and tour the area around Bola. Visit the area (Doreng beach) around Bola and Sikka. It is a one hour motor bike drive to Bola. Or you can hire an ojak. 3. You can snorkel in front of the beach of Sea World Club or Ankermi. Or arrange a boat to drop you on the nearby island Pulau Babi to snorkel. According to Richard (sales manager Sea World Club) I should visit the other smaller islands near Maumere.
I think that the Sikka (Bola and mount Egon) area has easily one of the more beautiful sceneries of Flores. Also the area around Bola has the more beautiful traditional ikat to offer In Flores. Although the one I brought back from Bajawa was also very high quality. Travelling around Maumere and interacting with the local people will fully satisfy your interest in local culture. But I am biased as my family is from Hokor, Bola on the Sawu sea.
Check out the photo gallery by wera damianus of the area discussed in this post.
The return tickets Denpasar – Maumere I bought from the tour operator Perama was Batavia Air rp 2,100,000 (stop-over Labuanbajo) Nov 2011 and Wings Air rp 3,700,000 (no stop-over) June 2012
(LionAir Rp 1,818 ,600 offered price in Feb 2012 but I forgot to confirm). So sent them an email and buy the tickets. You can even pay via Paypal or with Creditcard.
Sent me an email if you want my Flores contact details.
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