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First time Eurotrip: Amsterdam, Brussels, Luxembourg, Paris in 2 weeks

Replies: 25 - Last Post: Jul 18, 2012 10:16 AM Last Post By: gawkabout

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Aribo

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Jul 15, 2012 8:34 AM
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no offence, but you must be retarded. I have not known anyone with poorer inferential skills
Well, I won't take offence then.

I hoped the fact that I stated I was from university and my command in English would dispel that potential assumption
Hang around longer and you'll see that it's true what they say about assumptions - "to assume makes an ass out of u and me", you know - I've seen hundreds of posters including "Amsterdam" in their list of countries, so my assumption isn't that strange. Being Dutch but not from Amsterdam, I do take offence when people talk as if Amsterdam equals the Netherlands.

But anyway, enough of that.

One of my concerns are the transport issues. Should I go by train or by plane? I've heard of interrailing, the eurostar and the budget airlines, but I have no idea which one is the best/most convenient/cheapest
London-Paris: Eurostar, http://www.eurostar.com
Paris-Brussels: Thalys, http://www.thalys.com
Brussels-Luxembourg: Belgian Railways, http://www.b-rail.be
Brussels-Amsterdam: Thalys or InterCity train
Don't bother flying. Book tickets in advance in order to get a discount.

Phones won't work unless I get a local SIM card but I thought that would be really unnecessary considering I'm only in each of these countries for a few days
Are you sure your phone won't work? A UK phone should work fine on the mainland, although you'll pay for roaming charges. However, given that you plan to use the phone mainly for emergencies, I wouldn't bothering getting local SIM cards and all that. Just use your UK phone and, if you really have to, Skype.

MTL

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Jul 15, 2012 8:36 AM
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I am not going to shout or berate anyone if I don't get a perfect answer am I?
ahem. I think that's exactly what you did in your second paragraph in #5. In spite of the fact that i DID answer the question as I interpreted it.

Please just provide some constructive advice, any advice will do, and I will thank you for it.
in #3 I did this by providing a link, as well as saying you should take the train. Can you please remind where you expressed any gratitude?

You are the one who has been rude from the start. I am stating a fact.
Please tell me which part of my post #3 was rude. Really.

arizona

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Jul 15, 2012 10:02 AM
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arizona: thanks for your understanding. I knew that not everyone was like those 2 posters

arctan, this was a try to avoid derailing this thread; no need to use it as a comparison or blaming or whatever other posters, respected by me.

So 112 for emergencies, (this is not one), the dataroaming has become much cheaper since 1 July thanks to the EU (I assume the whole EU, not only the Eurozones since the UK has claimed some opt-outs)

clementis_fur_cap

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Jul 15, 2012 12:38 PM
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Anyone who has a bit of common sense will be able to tell that I was referring to communicating with friends or family back home
Oops, I thought you meant communicating with the locals! Guess I have no common sense...I mean, it wouldn't make sense to interpret your comment the way I did. Especially right after a sentence like, "I'm also apprehensive about my inability to speak any of the local languages."

But that is how I interpreted it. Honest. Thanks for the self-righteous clarification.

I've heard a lot of stories about friends losing stuff to pickpockets in Paris etc
Presumably these are the same people who told you that it's a good strategy to bite the hand of strangers who would otherwise willingly feed you. Aribo, for example, is a native of The Netherlands, and MTL is a resident of, um, well, I don't know exactly where, but he sure knows his way around Paris. You did express an interest in visiting these countries, correct?

I am not going to shout or berate anyone if I don't get a perfect answer am I?
You already have.

If anyone here lacks common sense, I've certainly decided on my candidate.

gawkabout

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Jul 15, 2012 1:30 PM
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Enough locals will speak Some English. We get better warmer interaction if we stumble with their language first.

easy easy

Peejee

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Jul 15, 2012 4:08 PM
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relax, it is an internet forum. This happens all the time. As for your question - there is absolutely no point to visit Luxemburg in my humble opinion. Not a big fan of Brussels either (being Belgian). Visit Antwerp for example instead.good train connection from Amsterdam.

bjd

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Jul 16, 2012 4:21 AM
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Thanks, Clementis -- I couldn't have said it better myself. Such a perfect balance between commiseration and sarcasm. Of course, OP will have no problem deciding which is which -- after all, she goes to university.

Aribo

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Jul 16, 2012 4:27 AM
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Thanks indeed Clementis, I wonder if the OP now considers you as someone "with poorer inferential skills" than me now. Or do you think you and I have similar inferential skills?

arctan1

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Jul 18, 2012 8:36 AM
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arizona: haha, some people here can't seem to take what they dish out. I'll leave it at that. I've met more than my fair share of such people. also, thanks for the tip.

peejee: cheers. i'll do more research and rethink luxembourg and brussels then. maybe spend more time in the other places if I can't find anything I'm interested in seeing/doing.

gawkabout: cheers mate, noted with thanks.

gawkabout

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Jul 18, 2012 10:15 AM
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Two wekks? Lord, why?

Go till the moneys gone except a Coka Cola at connecting airport.

You're only young once. And thirty is getting long in the tooth.

You'd just be getting the hang of it real well. And you'll survive, once back home.

gawkabout

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Jul 18, 2012 10:16 AM
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Open jaw return.

Rick Steves money belt. Funny instructions with it.

Don't sweat the small stuff.

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