Havasu Falls and Grand Canyon in November?
Replies: 4 - Last Post: Jul 8, 2012 12:30 PM Last Post By: FlagStuff
Jul 6, 2012 4:16 PM
Havasu Falls and Grand Canyon in November?Hello everyone!
I'm new to this forum, but I've done some searching around and haven't been able to find the info I'm looking for. My fiance and I are planning our first trip to Havasu Falls in November, so I'm hoping some of you who have been there before can give us some pointers and feedback on our itinerary.
We're planning 4 days for Havasupai, here's how we've broken it down...
Nov. 12 - Fly to Vegas and Drive to GC South Rim
Nov. 13 - Spend day at GC
Nov. 14 - Spend morning around GC, drive to Peach Springs mid-afternoon or so (from what I understand there isn't anything to do there, so we'll take our time leaving GC)
Nov. 15 - Hike down to Havasu Falls
Nov. 16 - Spend day around Havasu Falls
Nov. 17 - Spend day around Havasu Falls
Nov. 18 - Fly out of Havasu Falls, Drive to Vegas
Nov. 19 - Fly home.
We haven't made any reservations with the Havasu Tribe at this point, but we're planning to stay in the lodge.
Any tips on where to stay around the South Rim of Grand Canyon?
Have we given ourselves enough time at Havasu? Or is it too much time? Should we shift more time to the Grand Canyon?
Should we be concerned with weather at all that time of year? I understand the water at Havasu stays around 70 degrees year round, if that's true then it's warm enough for me! :-p
Thanks in advance!
Jul 6, 2012 8:26 PM
1I suggest you do Havasupi first...Drive LV to Peach Springs... Spend the night there in the modern lodge. With a early start, hike down in the AM.Spend three nights In the Canyon...If your flying out... You should(weather permitting) be able to be at the South Rim well before sunset...Nail down those lodge reservations ASAP...carracar
Jul 7, 2012 8:03 AM
2I'm agnostic on whether you do Havasu on the front or back of this trip, either way should work. #1's idea might be a little more efficient with your time.
Two whole days at Havasu is plenty. I know that 70-degree water sounds nice, but in November you likely won't be splashing around as if it were a tropical cove - the cool air temp and low sun angle will make any swimming a in-out-and-get-dry affair. Oh, it is possible you may hit a warm spell, but generally November is better hiking weather than swimming weather. There's really only one route to travel in the canyon - downstream towards the Colorado River and back up again, with a few minor side-canyons that may invite brief exploration. You can spend your first whole day lounging and relaxing by the creek and exploring the immediate environs of Havasu and Mooney Falls.The second day, make a longer hike as far down towards the River as you have time and energy for.
At the south rim, depending on your budget, consider the El Tovar or the Bright Angel Lodge first, the other park lodges second, and the hotels in nearby Tusayan third.
If you are into hiking, you may very well want another day at the South Rim. Although the waterfalls and canyon below Mooney Falls are absolutely spectacular, I actually enjoy hiking in the National Park more - the views of the canyon are much more spectacular and the hiking itself is more interesting. It would be reasonable to cut Havasu back to one full day in the canyon, skip the lounge day, and add that day onto the south rim for an additional hike there. Either way will make for a fine trip.
Jul 8, 2012 9:57 AM
3Okay, I'm not too sure where the other posters are from, though the last one should be familiar with the Grand Canyon enough to know that in November, there can be snow and LOTS of it. Also, temperatures for that area in November frequently go down into the 30s or lower. I would SERIOUSLY suggest you go to some site that gives historical weather information to give you an idea what to expect. One such site is wunderground.com. November is not a month to expect lots of sun and warm weather in the areas you are talking about. Think snow gear!
Jul 8, 2012 12:30 PM
4I'm not too sure where the other posters are from, though the last one should be familiar with the Grand Canyon enough to know...
I'm familiar enough to know that snow is possible in mid-November, although it is more of a concern for the drive in than the hike itself. Barring a truly freakish event, any snow that falls at the trailhead (which is under 6,000 feet elevation), will be minor and short-lived. It is equally likely to be 70 degrees. At Havasupai itself, several thousand feet lower, snow is vanishingly unlikely in mid-November. Granting that anything is possible, I'd still expect mild fall weather (with cold nights). The tribal website lists the average high/low for November as 64/35 (F), and that sounds about right to me. Certainly, it can easily be 15 degrees warmer or colder, so do be aware of the current weather forecast just before your trip - don't just rely on whatever is "normal" or "average".
And certainly, be prepared for much cooler and potentially more problematic weather on the canyon rims. The first snow of the season does typically fall in November sometime. Although if I had to bet on the weather on any given day in November, "cool and sunny" would be my wager.
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