Where should I move?
Replies: 54 - Last Post: Jul 14, 2012 11:33 AM Last Post By: tilos
Jul 6, 2012 9:56 AM
15If your work is going to depend on the public sector, perhaps you should look at social spending rates which vary greatly by State and possibly also municipality. I also agree with #1. Spending or hiring freezes are a common tool used by governments. If you move somewhere with one in place, you could be waiting a long time for a job.
Jul 6, 2012 11:33 AM
17I'd go visit Austin and see if you like it. It's the Live Music Capital of America. A major university. Lots of diversity. "Slackers" was filmed there. Only a few hours to the beaches. Near the Hill Country. Mild winters but long and hot summers.
Jul 6, 2012 3:02 PM
You're wrong about Houston, SoloHobo. I live in Houston. We are very ethnically diverse. People who aren't knowledgable about the city often don't realize how diverse our ethnic plurality is. As you might expect, lots of Latinos live here, but so do lots of east Asians, Indians, Eastern Europeans, Middle Easterners and North Africans.
I have family in Chicago and NYC and have traveled to both extensively. Yes, I've been to Brooklyn and Queens, as well as the other boroughs. I stand by my comparisons.
It's fine if you don't like Houston, but ignorance is another matter. Have you even been to Houston? How long?
Jul 6, 2012 3:52 PM
No Solohobo, Houston is awesome. I live in Montrose, where I have one of the best bars in the country, a fabulous grocery store, dozens of good restaurants, and in two months a Trader Joe all within a 1-mile radius. I walk everywhere. I'm only 10 minutes drive from downtown (easily bikeable) and the cost of living is ridiculously cheap. The arts are amazing here--I can walk to the fabulous Menil Collection, am close to the Houston Museum of Fine Arts, and I sing in the Houston Symphony Chorus.
Then there is the food. Nearly every kind of ethnic food you could possibly want. You don't just get Indian food here, you get Kerelan food, Gujarati food, Tamil food--every subgenre you could want. Devon street in Chicago pales in comparison to Hillcroft. We also have huge Vietnamese and Pacific Islander populations here. So hardly just Latino.
What else? Low cost of living, not just for rent but also for food. Huge ethnic diversity, much more so than Chicago where I used to live. Did I mention it's liberal? We have an openly lesbian mayor and a liberal city council that is currently expanding light rail and adding more bike paths.
Most people who hate on Houston have never seen any of it beyond the drive from IAH to downtown. Yes, I-45 is ugly. But life in the inner loop is vibrant and fantastic. I never found this kind of diversity in Chicago, even after living in just about every trendy neighborhood (Lincoln Park, Wrigleyville, Wicker Park, South Loop).
Jul 6, 2012 5:20 PM
20Santa Barbara may serve you, but you'd need 2 or 3 jobs on the side to afford rent....
Jul 6, 2012 7:52 PM
21Re Austin v. Houston
Austin Pros: Austin is much prettier than Houston. It has hiking, boating, and the lovely Zilker Park. It also has great live music, but since Houston is large it holds its own for major bands. Austin has some great restaurants. Much better public transit than Houston, but that is in part because it is smaller than Houston (public transit in the 610 loop of Houston is good). 90 minute drive to San Antonio, and short drive to Hill Country. SXSW is tons of fun (though a pain if you live downtown due to road closures and noise).
Austin Cons: It isn't a true major city--it's a little city that expanded too rapidly, making driving a pain. No major opera, symphony, or museums (though UT has some fine offerings in the arts that compensate). Cost of living for housing is significantly higher than Houston, making it expensive to live where all the fun stuff is. Consequently, almost all of my Austin friends are stuck in the far North or South part of the city and are constantly driving to get to the interesting stuff. I spend far less time in my car living in the 610 loop of Houston. Fewer ethnic food options. Want to fly somewhere--you'll likely have to change planes somewhere else. If you are allergic to ceder, stay away.
Personally, having lived in both cities, I don't mind getting my Austin outdoors fix on weekend trips and my SXSW fix by coming into town and staying with friends. I prefer to have big-city amenities, like an international airport.
Regarding Texas beaches, I wouldn't use that as a selling point to anyone. Our beaches suck. There is a benefit with regard to scuba diving (there are some nice reefs if you go out a few hours and stay on a live-aboard) and good fresh seafood. But I stay away from any body of water with portuguese man-o-wars, dead smelly Sargasso kelp, and large balls of tar. Plus the water is murkey from the Mississippi River dumping out into the Gulf. Yuk. http://It is nicer if you go all the way to the S. Padre Island stretch near Brownsville, but that is a long drive
Jul 6, 2012 9:54 PM
Jul 7, 2012 3:14 AM
LOL! There's fairness in that observation. Truth be told, I have a love/hate relationship with Houston and a begrudging semi-tolerance/hate relationship with Texas. (F-ing anti-intellectual neo cons have ruined this state.)
However, I have a hate/hate relationship with ignorance and BS hype. There are a lot of people who think the only cosmopolitan cities in the U.S. are on the left and right coasts or on a lake in Illinois. That's a load of cow patties covered in horse manure. If you want to criticize honestly and fairly, fine. Just be sure you know what you're talking about, otherwise you sound like a moron.
Tilos: Houston is awesome when you live in Montrose. Walking distance to The Chocolate Bar? Yeah, I'll take it. As a fellow foodie, I raise my fork to you.
Jul 7, 2012 3:48 AM
Jul 7, 2012 5:13 AM
Have you seen my hide? It's pretty thick. I'm a foodie who exercises infrequently, so it goes with the territory.
No worries, though. The last paragraph in my previous post wasn't directed at you. Years ago, Willysnout and I tangled on occasion, usually about restaurant recs and the merits/demerits of Kansas City. One thing I respect about the man, he has knowledge and experience to back his critiques.
Jul 7, 2012 9:16 AM
Jul 7, 2012 10:55 AM
27Here are some suggestions by MSNBC News.
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Jul 7, 2012 11:20 AM
28kobrien91: I share your grievances. I grew up in the Houston 'burbs and absolutely hated it. I lived in Austin and then got the hell out of Texas. I really enjoyed Chicago and it was hard to head back to Houston. But then I discovered that living in the 610 loop is nothing like living in the suburbs. Now I am a big Houston fan. Do I hate my governor? Sure. Do I wish it was 15 degrees cooler in the summer? Absolutely. But the heart of Houston is a liberal enclave full of hipsters, foodies, hippies, immigrants, young professionals, lushes, and crazies. It is a good mix.
I enjoyed my 6 years in Chicago, but there is a lot I don't miss. I don't miss the hour of traffic I would hit trying to drive 5 miles (my current commute is 12 minutes). I don't miss digging my car out of the snow in the winter. I don't miss the Illinois governors who always found their way to federal prison. I don't miss the horrible segregation of the neighborhoods and the $2000 rent. I don't miss the horrible grocery stores with overpriced food shipped in from far away. I'm not saying that Chicago doesn't have its merits, but it is far from perfect.
If someone posted not mentioning a preference for the South, I likely would have stayed quiet. But OP explicitly said that she was considering living in Houston, so I think the people who have actually live/lived here can probably give the best perspective. If your sole experience with this city is staying in a hotel room in the Galleria or Downtown, then you don't know Houston. If you have never set foot in Montrose, Rice Village, or the Heights, then you can't say there are no good neighborhoods, or that you have to drive everywhere, or that there is no culture. People need to get past their stereotypes.
Jul 8, 2012 9:41 AM
29"But the heart of Houston is a liberal enclave full of hipsters, foodies, hippies, immigrants, young professionals, lushes, and crazies. It is a good mix. "
Where in town is that at? I was thinking you are referring to the area in & around the midtown district between downtown and Hermann Park/Rice University, west of US59/Tx288. Is that right? How about the areas west of Rice University in (West) University Place and northwest of downtown in the Heights? How about Northside Village? How are those areas like?
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