Which countries/places should solo black women be wary of going to?
Replies: 13 - Last Post: Nov 5, 2013 7:44 AM Last Post By: WandaMichelleM
Jun 20, 2012 11:06 AM
Which countries/places should solo black women be wary of going to?I've been thinking of doing some long-term travelling in the near future, and there's quite a lot of countries I'd like to visit that I haven't been to before. On another forum, I was talking about how I'd like to go on an Australian Working Holiday, and one forum member (a black woman) warned me that Australia has many issues with racism towards non-white people, and recommended I go to New Zealand instead as I'd apparently be treated better there. I would like to go to New Zealand as well, but it'd be a shame if I couldn't go Australia either :(. I did also do some Googling on the topic, finding out that many people on other sites say that Australia is generally fine with black people, which is confusing me a little :look:.
Anyway, what do you people think? Do you think there are any other countries in the world that a solo black female traveller should be wary of and/or possibly avoid, because of bad treatment by local people for her race and/or perhaps gender?
Other countries I've been thinking of visiting are Japan, China, USA, Canada, and possibly some places in South America, Europe and Asia. Do feel free to leave comments about any country in the world, as I'm open to visiitng anywhere that sounds interesting to me :yep:
Jun 21, 2012 12:52 AM
1Go anyway. Like you haven't faced that pin headed attitude b4.
If you hear a black person with the "Everybody's racist but me." bs.
Then guess who's the racist. Self pitty, like good neighbors, comes in all colors.
On the other hand, I've never met a kiwi yet, who wasn't a lady or gentleman.
If you go to Australia, which you certainly should, I hope to Hell you'll go to all corners, as I did. Most people on here,who supposedly go to "see" Australia, never leave the east coast.
Jun 21, 2012 2:35 PM
2I would avoid Russia and Eastern Europe like a plague.
Jun 23, 2012 12:33 AM
3France is the best for that. Or so a French black guy told me.
He had gone to college in the states. He missed out on getting picked by an NBA team. So now he plays pro basketball in France.
Jun 26, 2012 9:47 AM
4Don't go to Russia. However it depends on exactly how black you are. Sorry to put it this way but it's just the reality. For instance when Russia imports soccerplayers from African countries where people are extremely black they are racist to them even though they idolize them. However someone with a lighter skintone or mixed race would experience less trouble. Just the way things work over there.
The only thing that's worse is to be from the Caucasus mountains or Germany.
I wouldn't worry about the other countries that you have listed.
Jul 1, 2012 12:38 AM
5I'm Australian - I'm white but for several years had a bf who was African. He came to live in the country town I live in, where he was one of few black people who lived here. He had a pretty good social life, and often ended up partying until the small hours. After he'd been here about a year I asked him if anyone had said anything racist to him in a pub or nightclub, or at his work, and he said not once.
He said that often people would ask him where he was from, and he'd say the Congo, in central Africa. And, he said there was always a few seconds of silence before the person would invariably ask, 'But how on earth did you end up HERE?!!' He found it quite funny.
I'm not saying Australia doesn't have racist people, or that we don't have a shameful history of treatment of indigenous people. But, I honestly think that you wouldn't experience direct racism - at least I hope you wouldn't.
Oh, my Congolese friend also went on a holiday to Thailand and said that he did feel like he stuck out as the only black person there, but also, that the locals were genuinely interested in him and treated him very warmly - certainly no racism, quite the opposite.
Jul 1, 2012 1:59 AM
6I heard from that black basket ball player, that black people are treated better back at his home country; France.
Jul 3, 2012 5:24 PM
Jul 3, 2012 10:27 PM
8That's really sad, that someone has actually warned the OP off travelling to Australia because she is black. Australia has had it's problems - the same as any country figuring out the way forward from a huge change in demographics from immigration, but our multiculturalism is what makes us a great country and the vast majority of Australians would welcome anyone with an interest in coming here for a holiday or working holiday.
OP, you should be more worried about being from the UK, you'll cop a flogging for being a Pom, especially if we beat England in any sports while you're over here ;)
Travelling in South East Asia is hilarious, especially if you take local buses and head somewhere a bit off the beaten track. EVERYONE will stare at you, with curiosity, not any malice. You won't have trouble catching someone's eye to strike up a conversation!
Jul 6, 2012 3:06 PM
9Thank you all for your helpful replies. They've been quite insightful and reassuring :).
I'm not sure how to quote or reply to individual posts, but anyways:
@kmingnath: What about in places like farms and rural areas? Especially if I wanted to do some specified work, such as fruit picking, for second year visa, would I be OK in those sorts of places?
@ShannonUnderwater: Haha, someone on another forum did say that I should be more worried about being a Brit than being black! :P But is it more banterous teasing rather than malicious discrimination about being British?
Jul 6, 2012 5:51 PM
10I think you would be more likely to experience racism in rural areas. But that said, I don't know how overt this racism would be.
I know that many Asians and Indians go work on farms, as it can be difficult to recruit locals, so if you were to do this kind of work, you wouldn't be the only non-white person.
Jul 7, 2012 11:42 PM
11Oh yes, it's definitely just teasing, give back as good as you get and you'll be fine. Plus, our way of coping with sporting losses is to generally pretend they never happened so it will be a case of: Ashes? What? Cricket?
Heaps of backpackers from all over the world go and do the fruit picking, as you can extend your WHV if you do it for a certain period of time. Otherwise in the cities there would be plenty of casual work at bars, cafes, restaurants etc. They often advertise positions vacant in hostels. Or if you're planning on staying in one place for a while you could sign up with a temp agency and get a short term contract doing office administration or something similar.
There is certainly less diversity outside of the urban areas. I grew up in a country town and in my final year at school of 63 students 2 were of Chinese background and 1 was Malay. But one was the school captain and a legend at footy, and his dad was a respected doctor. I know it's only an isolated example but I genuinely think most people judge on character as a person, not something that is only skin deep.
Jan 28, 2013 11:12 PM
12Rural areas now have a lot of workers from Africa who have fled the violence to make a new life. The general rule is they are welcolmed as hard working people who want to build a better life. The rednecks who mouth off would do it if you were white/red/pink. Come travel and enjoy
Nov 5, 2013 7:44 AM
13I am Black - Caribbean, I went to Australia 5 weeks, alone, it is the safest place I've been. If I have to recommend a place to travel for a black - solo - woman - traveler is Australia. I went from north to south and then north... from Darwin to Melbourne and then Quensland to Sydney... I wish I had more time to see more....
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