ARE THAI BUSES SAFE
Replies: 268 - Last Post: Nov 26, 2012 10:40 AM Last Post By: Doctornono
Jun 25, 2012 11:37 PM
Jun 26, 2012 6:29 PM
166Yeah, it is the myth that has snowballed, it has now entered the flashpacker zeitgeist, the story is retold with a hilarious reverence in flashpacker circles any time someone is robbed on the buses to the island (which happens with an alarming regularity). Simple as that. The police will blame anything and anything just to make things easier for them and people write about this stuff on the internet as if it were fact - just omitting the evidence.
There is no evidence and there has never been. The whole thing is actually impossible, if people put the slightest thought into it they would realise the mechanics of it are just stupid. Hilarious myth. Love it.
Jun 26, 2012 6:49 PM
Jun 26, 2012 8:15 PM
Jun 26, 2012 8:50 PM
169RE # KEIRSEK -
Quote - "It hasn't ended because 2 goons are still trying to 'win the internet battle of war' and neither can let the other have the last word. "
How do you construe it as trying to win internet battle ? - I told Goo if he doesn't want to accept or believe that fine , I also said before you barged in that discussion was over I wasn't going to respond to him , then you imposed on thread to keep it going even longer.
And by the way "no evidence" means just that - nothing , - no accounts of newspapers , victims statements etc . So Keirsek you don't know what the concept of 'no evidence' means.
QUOTE - "Who cares? I certainly don't. Only you and Goo do. "
But that leaves you with the large contradiction of why you are continuing to read and participate here . If you don't care why are you even reading this ? you had to make a conscious decision to find and click on this thread.
QUOTE - "You are just using me to keep this going and get Dave Elliot going "
But I had already stopped and said "discussion closed" to Goo, so I am not still going. As for you being used , you put yourself in that postion by intervening. And as for the reason this has gone on so long , there is the possibility that Goo Stewart is not a bone fide poster . A genuine poster even if he didn't agree wouldn't keep arguing so long about something he has no connection to . The tactic of saying "you have no evidence" over and over again is similar to Kananga on the Origin Of Full Moon Party thread , a topic Kananga also had no reason to be involved with. And its supicious that Goo Stewart himself posted on that thread parroting what Kananga said.
I am accused sometimes of being paranoid , but who else but Kananga would keep arguing this long once they had made their point.?
Jun 26, 2012 9:08 PM
QUOTE - "He probably wasn't making it up, but he was most definitely wrong. Just like the uneducated policeman who told him that it might have happened. And the newspaper report that said there were reports of it happening. Wrong, simple as that."
Then you have to provide some evidence that its all wrong. Quoting a Skeptics chatroom about the Royal Society giving advice about someone blowing ether into motorhomes to make people unconscious not relevant.
WHAT ABOUT OTHER TYPES OF CHEMICALS that the Royal society didn't mention ?.
And if gassing is impossible then why did the British Foreign Office issue a warning about it , if your Skeptic Websites account was correct ?
Plus you have the credibitilty problem of having stated on the earlier thread that all accounts of drugging on buses were urban myths and then changing to claiming that drugging of drinks occurs but not vapour. You changed your story.
JJack , declare your education , what knowledge of chemical substances or forensic experience do you have ?.
Jun 27, 2012 1:37 AM
Jun 27, 2012 8:54 AM
172WHAT ABOUT OTHER TYPES OF CHEMICALS that the Royal society didn't mention?
The statement by the Royal college has been copied and pasted multiple times, with relevant bits bolded and underlined to make it easier to understand. What is it about "It is the view of the College that it would not be possible to render someone unconscious by blowing ether, chloroform or any of the currently used volatile anaesthetic agents" that you don't understand? Why do you continue to ask about the "other types of chemicals" when the College's statement referenced any of the currently used volatile anaesthetic agents. Any agents, got it? Any! That's pretty straightforward and pretty compelling. A damn site more compelling than some silly story a backpacker told you years ago.
Jun 27, 2012 10:13 PM
173Here are dictionary definitions of Anaesthetic -
QUOTE - "A drug which causes a person or animal to be insensitive to pain ..."insensitivity to pain, especially as artificially induced by the administration of gases or the injection of drugs before surgical operations: ..during anaesthesia body temperature falls due to the effect of drugs
modern clinical anaesthesia uses low concentrations of volatile anaesthetics"
JJack you simplistically jumped to the conclusion that the drugs used on buses must be anaesthetics . A skilled thief doesn't need a person to be rendered insensitive to pain . the drugs which have more subtle effects are not anaesthetics . Thsi is beyond the scope of the Royal Society and furthermore they were not asked about it.
Jun 27, 2012 10:26 PM
Jun 28, 2012 12:11 AM
Jun 28, 2012 7:53 PM
Jun 28, 2012 8:35 PM
177^daveyboy, can you stop bickering about the evidence that JJ has and start actually looking or evidence of your own. To date we have no evidence that gassing on buses has ever happened in Thailand. Why is that?
The lack of evidence makes this a myth, it really is that simple.
Jun 28, 2012 9:56 PM
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