making the most of Oz before im 31
Replies: 22 - Last Post: Jun 5, 2012 3:48 PM Last Post By: mistymorning
May 23, 2012 6:52 AM
making the most of Oz before im 31I have looked through many other threads in search of ideas etc but right now i just feel a bit lost so any help would be appreciated.
After years of waiting for other people to be travel companions (and them always putting it off) i have decided to travel alone. The problem is that i will be 31 in the beginning of March 2013...... I have my WHV and cant travel till October this year.
My original plan was to fly to Cairns and spend 2/3 months traveling down to Sydney for NY. But this causes a few problems. One, where to go in January cos it will be hot and expensive. Two, doesnt leave me enough time to do the 3 months work to help me extend my visa. 3- Im thinking it will be too hot in the southern regions to do fruit picking etc...
I have thought alot about going to NZ as well as Australia but i have the same issue with the WHV. One option is to spend 3 months in Oz, go to NZ in January and then go back to Oz a few months later but again that leaves the problem of aplying for a second WHV before im 31.
So there you go, im just lost as to what to do. Going out there earlier than October just isnt an option right now and i will be on a tight budget. Im currently a HCA which means i take blood, bp's and all that sort of thing but im not currently planning to get work in that area.
I will add that my main purpose is to travel and see the country. I just need to suppliment my income and im very concious of the age restrictions so want work out the best way of doing it.
Thanx for any replies :)
Edited by: evenstar93
May 23, 2012 9:15 AM
May 23, 2012 11:31 AM
2Well it says that im at a lose as to what to do.... so any suggestions or ideas would be good.
Should i just not bother about trying to get an extension by doing the 3 months, should i maybe not do my original plan of Cairns to Sydney and instead go somewhere else in oz and see/work there.
I know that only i can make the decisions but as my original post says, im a bit lost.
May 23, 2012 1:31 PM
3See your predicament about the rural work thing and timings. Have a look and see where you can go and what jobs are qualify for 2nd WHV then see what the work availability is like. I dont think October would be too hot for any fruit picking sort of work. I worked picking grapes in WA where it was over 40degrees but it was a dry heat and quite nice.
May 23, 2012 2:11 PM
4Cairns is not such a bad place to start re getting work in October and you'll have a good chance of finding work in the hinterland on the Atherton tablelands, I actually knowing a young woman who was about your age at the time who worked up there.
She was not an immensely strong girl and quite slight but she found the work manageable and apparently was working for people of an Italian background, a lot having settled in northern Queensland and she found them to be very friendly people.
The Atherton tablelands do have a cooler more temperate climate than down on the coast and that could be important for you because it'll be getting warmish up in northern Queensland by October and becoming warmer and more humid into November and December when work could start to tail off as the wet season looms.
So yes, heading south is a good idea and it'll not matter too much where you go as long as it is south to get away from the wetter weather in the north and all of Australia will be warming up going into January and February.
Getting working ASAP is a good idea to make sure you can get the three months done before your thirty first birthday as you'll need to get your second WHV application in before that date.
Yep, it'll also be warm down south in places but you may have acclimatised OK and you just need to push on, maybe even look at whether you can get work down in Tasmania where it'll be a bit cooler.
In addition to doing paid work for the three months you can also do wwoofing - http://www.wwoof.com.au/ which will give you other options.
I reckon just concentrating on getting your second WHV in one country is the way to go initially but if you fall short of the three months for whatever reason, before your thirty first you could apply for a NZ WHV and because you have 12 months in which to enter, you could still keep working in Australia on your WHV there.
That in fact would give you maximum working time downunder in the antipodes and NZ certainly does not have anywhere near the same ammount of hot weather as Australia and if it's time in a cooler climate you want, you might even want to consider applying for the NZ WHV for 23 months regardless of whether you apply for the second Aussie WHV or not and if you do have the Aussie second, you'll have October to March 2014 in Australia and then can have until to February 2016 in NZ.
Plenty of time to even get married and have three kids by then!
May 23, 2012 3:46 PM
5Thank you both of you, youve both mentioned things i hadnt thought of as options.
4- your last paragraph had not occured to me at all!! It seems so obvious now but its an amazing back up plan, if not just an amazing plan to start with! Its actually made me feel alot less stressed as to the age limit so thank you :)
Would maybe have to pop back to the UK for the rugby world cup in 2015 tho!!
May 23, 2012 5:15 PM
6There's always the chance of picking up some cheap airfares and I was having a look at China Eastern re http://www.lonelyplanet.com/thorntree/thread.jspa?threadID=2203794
Exceptionally cheap prices if you play around with days of travel, mid week and Tuesday in particular offering great fares London - Shanghei - Sydney.
You can book the legs separately and so on getting to Shanghei, you ought to be able to get a cheap flight within Asia using Eastern China or either AirAsia or Tiger Airways to get yourself down to Vietnam/Thailand/Bangkok/KL/Singapore neck of the woods to get a flight into Cairns or if you need to Darwin and then on to Cairns with the likes of Jetstar.
The other thing you ought to get in hand fairly quickly is to make a booking for Sydney accomodation if planning on being there for Xmas/NY as the bookings of hostels can fill up quite quickly.
There are some hostels that may not start taking bookings until six months before Xmas but I'd check out a few to see if you can already make a booking and you'll likely need to make a booking for five or even seven days.
http://www.alfredpark.com.au/ is a smaller good value hostel and there are quite a few reasonably priced hostels up around the Sydney Central Railway Station area, a couple of http://www.yha.com.au/ and another reasonable and possibly cheaper hostel is http://www.bighostel.com/ but not so big in size.
http://www.glebevillage.com/ might also be worth a look.
The YHA has a relatively new hostel down in The Rocks and with a rooftop set-up which would be good for the NYE fireworks but it is also quite a bit more expensive than the usual run of hostels.
May 23, 2012 8:03 PM
May 23, 2012 10:01 PM
May 24, 2012 1:14 AM
9It might have just been ww envy at someones plan to bugger off back to the UK for the WC.
No worries for plenty of WCs on the big island evenstar - http://www.toiletmap.gov.au/
You just have to make sure there're no redbacks, funnel webs, huntsmen, and not more than one trap door lurking, all spiders! and re the trap door on many as most are pit toilets, don't faint on lifting it and fall in for it's a long way down to get up from.
No spiders to worry about in NZ.
Just another twist to your planning you may have already thought of is if you do get the second Oz WHV and also apply for the NZ WHV and so have to go there on about March 2014, if you've got yourself a good job in Oz, there is no reason why you could not fly over to NZ to activate your NZ visa and then come back to your job in Oz.
Bearing mind that there is a six months limit on working for the one employer, depending on what you're doing you may still be able to stay in Oz for near two years and then have about eighteen months in NZ, wages in Oz. being a bit higher than NZ.
In Oz. we have people in medical practices at hospitals or in a specific place for patients to get blood taken for testing by laboratories for doctors and they are not qualified nurses and may just have done a short course, it possibly being the type of work a lot of people are not too keen on because of the blood aspect.
It might be possible for you to get some work of that nature and so after doing your three months for the second WHV, if you do look for that type of work and settle in one location for at least six months and join clubs etc.to demonstrate being part of a community, you can qualify as residential for taxation purposes and some good money to be saved, potentially over $5000 p.a. in taxes.
Have a look at details via http://www.ato.gov.au/
May 24, 2012 1:42 AM
10More the thought of England winning the RWC!! Go Black!!
How on earth can he get a 2nd WHV!!
May 24, 2012 1:51 AM
11Yeah, thought it might have been a touch of that too.
As long as evenstar, a she I think ww but then again, does three months work to be eligible for the second WHV before she turns 31 and also gets the second WHV application in before turning 31 and it is approved, they tack the second 12 months on to the end of the first 12 months.
May 24, 2012 2:03 AM
May 24, 2012 2:18 AM
13The 2011 final with the frogs was about one of the best internationals you could have wanted to see and even if the frogs had won they also played well enough to deserve it.
Did you get a ticket ww or just have to watch on tele?
And what of Richie?, he'd be hard pressed to still be about wouldn't he, a few injuries leading up to 2011 as it was.
His heart and mongrel attitude is something missing from the Aussie sides I think.
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