Tipping at non-hotel Accomodations
Replies: 27 - Last Post: May 20, 2012 7:19 PM Last Post By: Ishotamaninreno
May 19, 2012 4:15 AM
15unless you're in a third-world country where service staff gets paid less than minimum wage
May 19, 2012 5:38 AM
May 19, 2012 5:47 AM
17Parts of it are. Ever been to a native American reserve or to LA?
And service staff being dependant for their income on handouts from customers instead of being paid a basic minimum wage isn't very first-world either. I've heard many people suggest that the American tipping system leads to better service... yeah, right - not many things annoy me more or are IMO less sincere than an American waiter sucking me up for the sole purpose of getting a 20% tip.
May 19, 2012 5:54 AM
18At least in Europe you don't get the OTT "Hello! It's GREAT to welcome you to our lovely restaurant, how are you all doing today? Have you been having a fabulous time?? Let me get you the menus, we've got a GRRREAT special today - freshly caught lobster from Maine - only the best will do for us. My name is Sharmaine and let me tell you, if there's anything at all I can do, whatsoever, I'll be more than happy to help! You guys make yourself comfy and I'll be back just as soon as you're ready!!"
My response would be:- "I'll have a coke, with no more cheese."
May 19, 2012 7:01 AM
19#18 that's what I'm talking about.
It's enough for me if the waiter is aware that I, being the customer, contribute to his salary and adjusts his behaviour accordingly (not a given in some restaurants in the Netherlands, I have to say, and it's probably not a coincidence that the Dutch use the English word service. OTOH, I have once even been to a place in Amsterdam where I was supposed to order in English - great, but if the waiter can't be bothered to learn the 20 phrases in the local language he needs to serve his customers, I can't be bothered to leave a tip, even if he'd be kind enough to wash my car while I'm eating).
I don't need to be told what's great about the restaurant, the menu, the lobster or my hairdo - I can decide that for myself.
May 19, 2012 7:20 AM
I live in France. sometimes I tip- sometimes I don't. Depends on my mood, the service, and whether i felt the experience was fairly priced or not. But in 6 years nobody has ever made any remark about my (lack of) tips. If i round up a taxi fare from EUR 9.80 to 10, i get a polite 'Merci beaucoup monsieur'. Try that in the US.
May 19, 2012 7:26 AM
21On my first trip to Japan I once rounded up the bill in a restaurant to the next 1000 yen, because I didn't need a load of coins and 18 yen or so is just a few eurocents anyway.
As soon as I stepped out of the door, the waitress came running after me: "sir, your change!"...
May 19, 2012 9:57 AM
22MTL: Maybe nothing 'happens', as in they won't hit you or anything, but you may get a sour face. My point wasn't that anything would happen, but that (at least in Holland) it is customary to tip waiters, regardless whether you should, or if it is mandatory or not. Like I said, I personally don't know anyone here (in Holland) that doesn't tip in restaurants. People that don't tip are considered cheapskates.
And I'm not saying that it is like in the US, where the tip is part the actual salary of the waiter. Here it is an extra to show your appreciation of the service, nothing more and nothing less.
The reason I'm replying to this topic, is because I never understand why people give American tourists the recommendation to never tip in Europe. No it's not mandatory, but by not tipping at all (if you're pleased by the service that is), you're not following local customs and people think you're cheap as well. It's also not mandatory to say hello and goodbye and please to the waiter, nothing will 'happen' when you don't. But he will think you're rude.
I don't know where you are from (your profile says you speak Dutch), but do you mean to say you never tip in restaurants in Holland at all?
Aribo: Japan is the only country I've been to where there's absolutely no tipping at all. I must say I did like that.
May 19, 2012 12:11 PM
If i tell them they don;t have to tip, they will still tip. A little. probably just the right amount. ;-)
Although i truly mean it- you never have to tip and if i just spent my well-earned money at a restaurant, they should be grateful for my business. A tip is an extra and should never be expected. If they choose to make a sour face that's their problem, not mine.
May 19, 2012 1:43 PM
24I tip in Europe. Life ain't east for anybody these days.
I usuakky do the 20% tipping I was raised on.
In the hotels I worked in, in Texas, the employee consisis was' Best tippers are New York businessmen. Second were people who had worked for tips before.
You can get injured on those jobs. And waitresses cry sometimes over something some s.o.b. said to them.
May 19, 2012 8:03 PM
25The people here in the states do regard folks from NY come from a sorta different planet, seen as easily the most aggressive, rude and manner-less people in the country.
And i do think that it reflects in their tipping, they have been raised to expect people to tip at least 20%, and waiters are known to chase and be-little people who don't.
I was born and raised on the West Coast, and we have a way far more relaxed and flexible view to tipping here i think, if i get a snooty waiter/waitress or bad service i tip accordingly.
May 20, 2012 10:51 AM
May 20, 2012 7:19 PM
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