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Not sure this is the right forum for this, if not please tell me.
i really like a burmese 25yo local girl, i am not going to explain it in details, but i am not talking about wanting to take her out for one night or stuff like that. I am very traditional, and i already had a vietnamese GF. As a Viet Kieu, sad to say that, it is pretty easy to get to talk to girls and so on, and everytime i am really afraid it is only for convenience. This girl seems to be a lot different. I never asked her out, because i know it wouldn't be good for her honour. But i really want to know her better. i had the chance to talk to her once for couple of hours during her working time. We exchanged addresses and email adress. Now i left to Mandalay and she did call me at the hotel to know if i am doing well. I hope that means she likes me a bit too (even though she told me she is not looking for a boyfriend and never had one). I am planning to change my itinerary to see her again, even if i know it would be for a short time.
Now anyone did had a serious relationship with a burmese woman? How is a relationship with a foreigner seen here? anything that i should avoid to do or be aware of? Not sure what to expect.
Lol for asking this here, i know.
Also what are the repercussions if you end up dumping her for her chances then.
martin010 has a girlfriend in Myanmar, some here intend to castrate him if he does the dirty on his girlfriend and does not do the honourable thing by marrying her, maybe ask him anbout the pitfalls, also we all intend to go to his wedding later this year in Myanmar
you really never seem to disappoint...
this is going to be a interesting thread...
"Now anyone did had a serious relationship with a burmese woman?"
Yes. PM me
"How is a relationship with a foreigner seen here?"
This depends on who you are dealing with. Young people tend to be more tolerant and open minded as it is anywhere but I have experienced a lot of racism from plenty of different people (usually older). Also experienced verbal violence and damage to my property (poor motorbike is feeling better now though hehe). Foreigners have a bad image in Myanmar, by many we are seen as superficial, arrogant, fickle, pick any prejudice you want.
A lot of gossip about your relationship is a given, which is a problem mainly for the Myanmar person obviously. From personal experiences I can say that this can be pretty bad ...
Especially a Myanmar female will have to sacrifice a lot if she wants to be in a relationship with a foreigner.
On the other side, the fast majority of foreigners are not going to be willing to do the necessary sacrifices that are needed when wanting to be in a serious relationship with a Myanmar girl.
"I had the chance to talk to her once for couple of hours during her working time"
And? I dont really get it... You have talked for her once. Any thought about a possible relationship is totally premature especially as most Myanmar females wouldn´t even consider a relationship with a foreigner.
One advice that I can give you: stop with that idea that Myanmar people are somehow special or "beautiful" as you put it in another thread. They are just as good or bad as any other nationality. On the outside Myanmar people might appear to be a lot different to your fellow Vietnamese or whatever other nation you want to compare them to but on the inside they are just the same.
Really difficult to give any other advice as you dont tell us more about your personal case. As you know everybody is different and this also very much applies to Myanmar people. Myanmar girls are just as diverse as girls in any other country.
Sometimes we just cant help ourselves when it comes to our attractions to another person, just the way love is.
But I would say that there are many cultural traits to admire in a Burmese, and can be in contrast to a Vietnamese. Yes its easy to say all countries have good and bad persons, but its also not fair to be so general and compare and lump all cultures into one basket either. I dont think you can say a young lady from a traditional background in Poland, Turkey, Colombia and Burma, have much the same attitudes on the surface, but in the end, can be the same in principle and moral beliefs.
Anyway, as Martin says, its all depends on the young ladies cultural base and family/community beliefs, as far as what her peers will think about her involved with a VN or a foreigner. You need to talk to her about that, so get to Mandalay and find out!
Good Luck, and hopefully your concerns are not a big deal.
I married a young lady from Beijing, met her in Chicago while she was here for her MBA. The cultural differences are a constant learning curve for both us, and they can flare up without notice, but we have learned to step back on misunderstandings and take a fresh perspective as to why something is done or said. Her family thinks she married down, as I am American, and they are Chinese snobs...haha
Culturals morals and values play a huge role in Myanmar but at the end of the day the fullfillment of our needs and wishes is what really drives us in our daily lifes. To give you an example, Myanmar people are in general very religious. Yet the most unreligious things like violence (physical and mental), drug abuse, prostitution, material greed, corruption, viciousness etc are rampant in Myanmar. How do you explain that?
All of these things are opposed to the "cultural traits" of Myanmar, yet they happen everyday and everywhere. It just shows you that a facade of cultural and religious beliefs doesnt hide the human behind it.
Is Europe a more moral and religious place because there is much less violence, more tolerance, less materialism etc?
pretty much unknowns is not seen as just friendship, or am i wrong?"
Where is she living? In Mandalay?
Honestly, Im not too sure what the problem is. Most people will think she is your guide anyways.
And again, how do you want to be with a girl that you cant even be with outside a closed GH?
Also Mandalay is a big town, people really couldnt care less about two people, foreigner or not walking around.
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emotional tips...
First time in Myanmar. i am a lone 30 yo vietnamese traveller living in europe.Not sure this is the right forum for this, if not please tell me.
i really like a burmese 25yo local girl, i am not going to explain it in details, but i am not talking about wanting to take her out for one night or stuff like that. I am very traditional, and i already had a vietnamese GF. As a Viet Kieu, sad to say that, it is pretty easy to get to talk to girls and so on, and everytime i am really afraid it is only for convenience. This girl seems to be a lot different. I never asked her out, because i know it wouldn't be good for her honour. But i really want to know her better. i had the chance to talk to her once for couple of hours during her working time. We exchanged addresses and email adress. Now i left to Mandalay and she did call me at the hotel to know if i am doing well. I hope that means she likes me a bit too (even though she told me she is not looking for a boyfriend and never had one). I am planning to change my itinerary to see her again, even if i know it would be for a short time.
Now anyone did had a serious relationship with a burmese woman? How is a relationship with a foreigner seen here? anything that i should avoid to do or be aware of? Not sure what to expect.
Lol for asking this here, i know.
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unless this is to develope into a serious friendship then a possible romantic one forget it!! OR be very aware of the pitfalls and also the problems if you wish to take her back to EU with you as a wife.Also what are the repercussions if you end up dumping her for her chances then.
martin010 has a girlfriend in Myanmar, some here intend to castrate him if he does the dirty on his girlfriend and does not do the honourable thing by marrying her, maybe ask him anbout the pitfalls, also we all intend to go to his wedding later this year in Myanmar
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haha I knew you would bring me up, I was just waiting for it Monty haha =)you really never seem to disappoint...
this is going to be a interesting thread...
"Now anyone did had a serious relationship with a burmese woman?"
Yes. PM me
"How is a relationship with a foreigner seen here?"
This depends on who you are dealing with. Young people tend to be more tolerant and open minded as it is anywhere but I have experienced a lot of racism from plenty of different people (usually older). Also experienced verbal violence and damage to my property (poor motorbike is feeling better now though hehe). Foreigners have a bad image in Myanmar, by many we are seen as superficial, arrogant, fickle, pick any prejudice you want.
A lot of gossip about your relationship is a given, which is a problem mainly for the Myanmar person obviously. From personal experiences I can say that this can be pretty bad ...
Especially a Myanmar female will have to sacrifice a lot if she wants to be in a relationship with a foreigner.
On the other side, the fast majority of foreigners are not going to be willing to do the necessary sacrifices that are needed when wanting to be in a serious relationship with a Myanmar girl.
"I had the chance to talk to her once for couple of hours during her working time"
And? I dont really get it... You have talked for her once. Any thought about a possible relationship is totally premature especially as most Myanmar females wouldn´t even consider a relationship with a foreigner.
One advice that I can give you: stop with that idea that Myanmar people are somehow special or "beautiful" as you put it in another thread. They are just as good or bad as any other nationality. On the outside Myanmar people might appear to be a lot different to your fellow Vietnamese or whatever other nation you want to compare them to but on the inside they are just the same.
Really difficult to give any other advice as you dont tell us more about your personal case. As you know everybody is different and this also very much applies to Myanmar people. Myanmar girls are just as diverse as girls in any other country.
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Interesting take on things and this fellow that is in the midst of a Burmese crush.Sometimes we just cant help ourselves when it comes to our attractions to another person, just the way love is.
But I would say that there are many cultural traits to admire in a Burmese, and can be in contrast to a Vietnamese. Yes its easy to say all countries have good and bad persons, but its also not fair to be so general and compare and lump all cultures into one basket either. I dont think you can say a young lady from a traditional background in Poland, Turkey, Colombia and Burma, have much the same attitudes on the surface, but in the end, can be the same in principle and moral beliefs.
Anyway, as Martin says, its all depends on the young ladies cultural base and family/community beliefs, as far as what her peers will think about her involved with a VN or a foreigner. You need to talk to her about that, so get to Mandalay and find out!
Good Luck, and hopefully your concerns are not a big deal.
I married a young lady from Beijing, met her in Chicago while she was here for her MBA. The cultural differences are a constant learning curve for both us, and they can flare up without notice, but we have learned to step back on misunderstandings and take a fresh perspective as to why something is done or said. Her family thinks she married down, as I am American, and they are Chinese snobs...haha
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I see where you are coming from Solo Hobo but I have to say that I dont buy into that.Culturals morals and values play a huge role in Myanmar but at the end of the day the fullfillment of our needs and wishes is what really drives us in our daily lifes. To give you an example, Myanmar people are in general very religious. Yet the most unreligious things like violence (physical and mental), drug abuse, prostitution, material greed, corruption, viciousness etc are rampant in Myanmar. How do you explain that?
All of these things are opposed to the "cultural traits" of Myanmar, yet they happen everyday and everywhere. It just shows you that a facade of cultural and religious beliefs doesnt hide the human behind it.
Is Europe a more moral and religious place because there is much less violence, more tolerance, less materialism etc?
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Well, its just a sly joke, not on you, just a remark. The little head is the you know what between our legs that tends to get us into trouble when it comes to women, per say, thinking with the little head, as opposed to the big head, our brain, which should have more reason and sense, though that can prove elusive when it comes to passion/sex.11
"Asking her out would mean exposing her to gossips i feel. In my village in south VN male-female relationship betweenpretty much unknowns is not seen as just friendship, or am i wrong?"
Where is she living? In Mandalay?
Honestly, Im not too sure what the problem is. Most people will think she is your guide anyways.
And again, how do you want to be with a girl that you cant even be with outside a closed GH?
Also Mandalay is a big town, people really couldnt care less about two people, foreigner or not walking around.
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If there is still a curfew in Mandalay be careful if you are out with her past 11, she could get in trouble...
