It's a Miracle!
Replies: 14 - Last Post: Mar 3, 2012 10:17 PM Last Post By: obione980
Feb 21, 2012 5:09 PM
It's a Miracle!So we saw this lot getting on the plane in Hong Kong and going through security at SFO (where the 1st photo was taken) and then The Miracle: Every single one of these poor crippled people got up out of their wheelchairs and walked!!! Here is the proof!!! Note that she didn't even need a cane (she wasn't holding on to the cart but for just a moment)!
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Feb 21, 2012 5:28 PM
Feb 22, 2012 9:21 PM
The only thing that I will say in their defence is that there is no middle ground in airports for people with mobility issues. I just had two knee replacements in past year and airports have been very difficult because the distances from the plane to another gate/terminal/wherever is usually a good long walk. You either have to walk it which can be very painful or you have to ask for a wheelchair. I was always too proud for the wheelchair route but frankly, it would have been warranted considering how much pain I was in after some of those treks. But if I'd taken a wheelchair then you would have seen me get up out of that wheelchair and walk onto the plane - no problem.
Feb 23, 2012 3:49 AM
3I know what you mean, Living. I haven't had replacements yet, but before my second arthroscopy, ia had bone chips which were causing so much pain I had no hope of climbing stairs, and I live where there are no air bridges. I could manage the (relatively short) flat walk from where our commuter planes land, but not the plane steps.
If I had been on a different airline, I might have needed the wheelchair.
Feb 23, 2012 8:00 AM
Feb 24, 2012 9:34 PM
5There seems to be a steady continous increase of passengers that require wheelchair svc. Don't know for a fact, but it appears that the system is now being abused by some folks. And if so, then this means a concomitant ncrease in the need for additional airport personnel. So, who will eventually bear this extra cost?
Feb 25, 2012 1:13 AM
Feb 25, 2012 1:29 AM
Feb 27, 2012 1:50 AM
8I think most of us feel like bu_cha until the time comes when we need some extra help, and become the people we previously sneered at.
I know I did, until I got sciatica after hauling an 18kg bag around for six months and suddenly found I couldn't walk more than 20 or so steps without my legs crumpling underneath me. Now I can once again walk up the odd mountain (provided there's a path) but those few weeks until physio sorted out the worst of it were sheer hell.
Feb 27, 2012 4:19 AM
9You miss the point go_2, which is the remote possibility that in a group of international travelers this large that everyone would need a wheelchair. They were moving about the plane without apparent difficulty and once through immigration (sooner than most people and certainly sooner that my wife and I), they discarded their wheelchairs and walked away.
The fact that I have needed assistance with ambulation in the past and that my wife has had difficulty walking for several years doesn't make me more understanding of these people who (imo) are manipulating the system. It pisses me off - the same as when I see unimpaired people taking up handicapped parking places or strong, healthy people taking up elderly/handicapped seats on a bus while people who need them struggle.
Feb 27, 2012 5:00 AM
10Oh dear - maybe you don't mean it like that, but it comes across as sour grapes to me.
On what are you basing your contention that these people were manipulating the system? Apart from those with broken or amputated legs, people don't usually show a sign that they're incapacitated. Walking through a plane - or even the airside at an airport - doesn't equate with the sometmes vast distances one has to traverse to reach imnigration control.
As for 'strong healthy people' taking up seats on a bus. I stare them down and usually get a seat. But if I don't, too bad. After all, they've probably been working hard all day, which is tiring even if you're sitting at a desk, while my time is my own and I could have chosen to get on that bus at a less crowded time.
Feb 27, 2012 5:27 AM
11Go_2: "As for 'strong healthy people' taking up seats on a bus. I stare them down and usually get a seat. But if I don't, too bad. After all, they've probably been working hard all day, which is tiring even if you're sitting at a desk, while my time is my own and I could have chosen to get on that bus at a less crowded time."
Feb 28, 2012 1:59 AM
Feb 28, 2012 11:03 AM
13I would err on the side of patience and tolerance for one's fellow man and woman. Like Ozzie I have been exactly in this position and the distances one needs to travel in airports can be overwhelming when one is still upright and walking but mobility has become an issue. I too would have looked like a 100% able bodied person walking on the level over shorter distances, moving around a plane etc.
I live in an area with a high ethnic population, as per the photo. What happens is that a lot of families send over the funds for grandpa and grandma to come visit the family here in Canada. So I suspect what happens is that there are charters that cater specifically to the grandpa/grandma crowd, including escort through the various airport transfers etc for the elderly that don't speak the local languages (eg German in Frankfurt, English in Toronto etc). The photo looks like such a crowd, brought over together to see their families.
Another bugbear of mine is people who use the handicapped stalls to park then get out of their cars looking pretty fine to me. I sometimes actually confronted them. That is until a friend developed a cardiac condition that required him to limit how far he walked. He too looked just fine standing there but the walk from the far end of the parking lot into a shop would have finished him. So I don't say anything anymore. But I still bet at least 50% of those parking there don't need it.
But you know what? If they are parking there or using a wheelchair when they don't need it ...they are jerks. Don't waste your energy on them.
Mar 3, 2012 10:17 PM
14Had a couple sitting in front of us on Korean Air from Brisbane. Disembarked at Incheon - and they whizzed past us as we tramped out to Immigration etc - on an electric wheelchair car. Funny! No problem moving around the aircraft that we'd noticed
Got to our hotel - hot and bothered (we were transitting on our way to the USA next day). They emerged from their room, right next to ours - on their way to the pool. Had time to change and freshen up, while we battled with the masses! No apparent mobility problems again. Miracle!
Just slightly shame-faced they mumbled about the need to be careful with their arthritis!
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